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SycoPsilico And Psychedelic Dream Jobs

Team T4 Episode 28

Ever found yourself staring blankly out the window at your day job, dreaming of something more? Well, this episode is our love letter to those dreams as we discuss the importance of trading unfulfilling jobs for creative pursuits. We are joined by the brilliant Izzy from SycoPsilico, who lends a fascinating perspective on how our early experiences can influence our creative sparks, and the challenging yet rewarding process of video game creation. Along our journey, we find ourselves reminiscing about a charming old theatre in Kentucky, bringing back memories of dreams becoming reality.

As we transition from dreams to the nitty-gritty details of bringing them to life, we shed light on the technical aspects of filmmaking. We share our experiences from location scouting to building a strong and dedicated crew that makes the magic happen. We also discuss how local support can make a significant impact, throwing fuel on the passion that drives our projects. And if you've been hearing a lot about ASMR lately and wondering what the buzz is all about, we've got you covered as we explore its role in relaxation and sleep.

Ending on a high note, we reveal our plans for a sequel and share personal anecdotes that highlight how sometimes, the most challenging experiences make the best stories. We hope this episode will inspire you to embrace the world of creativity, to listen to your inner spirits that are yearning to manifest their ideas into reality, and to understand that the worst experiences often lead to the best stories. So join us on this journey as we transform challenges into opportunities and embrace our creative journeys.
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Speaker 1:

On your break today. I'm gonna tell you all the reasons why you should quit your fucking job. But get the fuck out of there. You don't need to be there anymore. Follow your dreams, do what you want to do. Make a fucking movie, go knit sweaters. I don't give a fuck what you fucking do. Quit your fucking Job. It is a meat grinder. It is eating you up every fucking day. Take the balls and just do it. Fucking quit. I fucking did and I'm fucking glad I did. You should too.

Speaker 2:

All right time to clock out for lunch.

Speaker 1:

Don't clock back in. Don't clock back in Get.

Speaker 2:

Welcome in, done paid lunch and thanks for spending your break with us. With me, as always, is rhino. It's heavy D here and we actually have a. We're live on tiktok today. We've not done that before. We've done that before live on it. So no, we've not done it here in studio, but we have Izzy from SycoPsilico.

Speaker 1:

Silico Is here thanks for bringing me on guys good time. Yeah, we're really great time.

Speaker 2:

We've, we've had the pre-show was. The pre-show was was probably not tiktok friendly, so we couldn't go, we couldn't do the pre-show live.

Speaker 3:

Listen, the pre-show has nothing in it feels in comparison to the actual drive over, like you guys missed out on like 30 minutes of dialogue before we even got here, and throughout easy.

Speaker 1:

Oh, things that we can't talk about. We can't talk about these things here.

Speaker 2:

I feel like we should, though.

Speaker 1:

We should.

Speaker 3:

A lot to do with our current locale, so we can probably discuss later on. But One thing that we kind of wanted we kind of alluded to last week and we definitely want to speak a little bit further on this week, is we had a previous episode where we kind of Embarked on discussing what some of our dream jobs were and really, quite frankly, quite frankly, slick Nick was here and it really kind of divulged into just a huge conversation about yeah.

Speaker 2:

Disney, that's all it was and and that's kind of the whole right. That's. That's, that's our whole thing. Right is, um, it's do just don't do the normal shit that everybody else does. And and do what you want to do, and that's what dream jobs you know, that's kind of where we're at with it, and, um, I mean Izzy's here, but I'm not sure what Izzy's dream job would be.

Speaker 1:

You don't want to know what Izzy's dream job would be, so we can go with what my normal dream job would be, which is what we're doing. We're living it. We're creating anything that we fucking please off the top of our head. Anything that I see in my head, we just fucking make it don't do that. It's. It just does what you need it to do.

Speaker 2:

We kind of do that too. We edit it all out.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's a big thing, like you kind of spoke to last week. I'm a huge film buff, have been for years. I really love horror movies, love everything, but ultimately, like in a past Nah, I hate this. I could feels like a horror movie. Fuck that shit. Sorry, jenny, but Like literally going back and I look back it feels like lifetimes ago, when I was 19, 20 years old, like fresh high, high school and stuff. My dream was to go to full sale down in florida and actually become a film producer. So that's why I really kind of got quite enamored with this work, because Watching everything that you do on tiktok like the creativity behind it Blows my mind. I love it so inspiration.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's some of our favorite content, for sure.

Speaker 3:

That's one of the biggest things that I wanted to. Even have the conversation with you bad, and it's not just obviously the film coming up, but the medium as a whole, like everything that you pour you out into tiktok and everything else. Yeah, where's that come from?

Speaker 1:

Very, very dark places. You just just go into it and you take something that fucks with you and it bothers you and you just make it into something beautiful. You make it into a true piece of art, something that you appreciate, not something that bothers you or something that you fear, but something you fucking love. So you got to take care of your demons. You got to be good to them. You got to show them what they, what they want to see.

Speaker 3:

You know some people strive like, try to move away from said demons like I mean.

Speaker 2:

Listen, I'm a medicated on antidepressants because of my Embrace, mine. It's fine we're there.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna come afraid of where I would end up at.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and obviously you know easy embraces there oh, you definitely have to embrace it.

Speaker 1:

You got to okay. So if you think about it, you think about it. How do you?

Speaker 1:

catch more flies with honey or vinegar. Treat your demons the same way. You'd be sweet to them. You talk to them real good and they, they talk back and then they're like hey, hey, here's a, here's a fucked up idea for you. I feel like you can make it into something. So something I was thinking about on the drive over here, a long fucking drive. So on the way down here I was thinking about something, and so I feel like ideas are like little spirits that are just wandering around. It's just energy flying around cosmos and Through the universe, and then, when you get inspired by something, it possesses you. It's like a little ghost and it just possesses you and it thinks that you can create what it wants itself to be in this physical reality, manifestation of it exactly so it wants to exist, so it picks who

Speaker 2:

it thinks I have a hard time keeping up.

Speaker 3:

I'm here for it, I'm in love right now.

Speaker 2:

Um yeah, I just you know that seems like a lot of work, none none.

Speaker 1:

It just comes to you, it just magically hits you.

Speaker 3:

The problem is, is we're not creative?

Speaker 2:

I think, mine's gas.

Speaker 3:

It feels a lot like that. It feels a lot like gas, oh well, you just got completely let go.

Speaker 1:

It's like a. It's like a.

Speaker 2:

Silly trip.

Speaker 1:

It's like one of those you just let go. If you try to control it, you ain't gonna come out right if something fucks up along the way.

Speaker 2:

That's what we're doing wrong.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it is Listen.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if you want to see my demons until I mean, I feel like I've seen them sometimes you have, but definitely off air, but yeah, that's, true so with everything now, obviously, like I know how long do you feel like you've been on like kind of like the tick-tock wagon, like when you start creating in that endeavor?

Speaker 1:

so my friend with schizophrenia. She told me to make a tick-tock. When, fuck, I believe November 2019, I went live on Facebook for Halloween to work on a face and Carol was working on Holly. So Holly was created on Facebook and my first live ever. So when I was doing that, I was like this is really fun. Well, my schizophrenic friend, she reached out to me. It's like hey, I've not been on my meds for months. This is hitting right where she was like fucking love it, you gotta put this on. So I did the longer.

Speaker 2:

The longer I'm here, the more I can't separate real from Reality from fiction. Why?

Speaker 1:

are you covering your face Uh?

Speaker 2:

I'm just I'm confused on where I am.

Speaker 1:

Why don't you look at me during?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm a little more afraid than I was a few minutes ago.

Speaker 1:

Demanding it. I want you to make eye contact.

Speaker 2:

Brand my kids, or what brand my kids off?

Speaker 1:

They rent themselves off.

Speaker 2:

So so I love it. You drove a while to get here. I'm glad you got here. We've been excited about it all week. Oh god, rino's. Rino's pumped. He's. I've been geeking out. Yeah, he's as gay for you as he can be. Yeah, it's, that's just real. Um and and yeah, we're pumped to get here. What do you got going on?

Speaker 1:

all kinds of shit. Made a movie, left, uh, left one of my dream jobs, which is the topic of the show. Left one of my dream jobs to go do another dream job, one that was more Accessible. Everything is opportunity-based, so I had the opportunity, so I took it and doing something you love.

Speaker 1:

Yes, absolutely. I love the other place. I was at two before I left to do this I did. It was the only other job that I felt like, treated me with respect as an individual, because, let's just be honest, most jobs fucking don't do that.

Speaker 3:

No, god no no, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2:

That's what we're, that's.

Speaker 3:

Freakin alley-oop. So the thing is like I've known you for a long time. You've always been a very creative individual, so I worked under you once upon a time. Once upon a time a lot of people don't know was how shitty boss.

Speaker 1:

No, he was actually one of my favorites. Use a shitty boss. Hey, let me tell you something about this motherfucker.

Speaker 2:

He knew what your answer is gonna be.

Speaker 3:

Wanted was I a table.

Speaker 2:

I wanted that documented on yeah, well, if you're his kid and they ask you a different question.

Speaker 3:

Even back then there's one of them shitty jobs, like I was, I discussed in probably 19 fucking different episodes. There was no hours in that work place. I mean like yeah like as much as I'd love to have in them around, it's there. There was no opportunity because there's your fucking payroll deal with it, work with it. But like even knowing you back that far, like it was phenomenal just to be able to see the creative spikes when we've had four episodes on it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and like.

Speaker 3:

I Say this a lot because I know you fuck with this and you're all about it. Even though, like all this is definitely like a some more vibes, very psychedelic, I can't help but see some Kojima in there. Definitely and I know a lot of people probably have no idea what I'm talking about when I say Kojima. Do you know what I'm talking about when I say Kojima? I'm a huge milga solid. Yeah, if you can play through one of those games and not trip the fuck out about what's going on, the inter dialogue, all the other Things going on it within that, you know the environment, that games phenomenal. So just be able to see I know you used to be twisted up by those games and be able To see it flourish into this.

Speaker 1:

Oh, still am.

Speaker 2:

Oh, love the fuck out of middle gear solid and, like you know, when you get, when you're creative, like you are, the, you get inspiration from a ton of stuff, and definitely stuff you grew up doing that was like you're. The colors you use in your lighting are so reminiscent of those games.

Speaker 1:

Actually, the colors I use in my lighting are from silly trips Purple and greens, of the colors I see when I close my eyes. So when you close your eyes, I see the visual snow of everything, and it's all in purple and green. Yeah, so let's see what was green.

Speaker 2:

That's why, I guess, is why I'm not creative.

Speaker 3:

I close my eyes and I feel like I need to go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we've been over that, Ah, like.

Speaker 3:

This is obviously something we've never discussed live on the show. I have never been high Like. I've never smoked weed, anything like that same anything. That's not something I've ever. I don't know I Can. I came from a nervous nerve pain, nerve pain and anxiety you should come with a right on a ride with me. I got an addictive personality. No, you have to.

Speaker 1:

You have to only do it when the time is right. You have to suffer. You're not allowed to have it.

Speaker 2:

I want good suffer more.

Speaker 3:

Life is suffering like I'm sitting here right now. My leg is numb.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but suffering builds character, it makes it.

Speaker 2:

See here that trauma bring success, right now Not a fucking RPG.

Speaker 3:

My nerve pain is not cyberpunk, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

Smoke a little weed. You don't have to have that nerve pain. I'm just saying I didn't say I'm he told you to, I didn't.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you're not condoning.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I didn't say I wasn't condoning it.

Speaker 2:

So what do you have coming up that you want to talk about?

Speaker 1:

so I made a movie.

Speaker 3:

I've been working here about me since, so I got the inspiration for a while.

Speaker 1:

I always wanted to make something amount. I tried to do a video game first in 2019 and it was gonna be a medieval hack and slash gore fest.

Speaker 2:

Chivalry. Okay, yeah, it's just, it's just medieval, it's medieval call-duty.

Speaker 1:

I need to play that. I have it. I never installed it. I need to play it, but that was something I wanted to do is gonna be a top-down Action adventure, but we won't be able to those details. I didn't have the funds to do it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a lot harder than like. Then when you go into it it's probably easier to make a movie in it like cheaper.

Speaker 1:

Depends, it depends so. So here's the issue with making the game. I. I had the modding community of Skyrim on my side because I used to make mods there. And I had a bunch of mod community members and I actually worked on the. Uh, this beyond beyond Skyrim, the the Sierra deal expansion. Yeah, I got to work on that for awesome.

Speaker 1:

So that was awesome, that was dope, but at the time of my life I couldn't really focus on it so I had to let it go and tell everybody bye. But there was a concept artist who made the glass longsword concept and it was fucking amazing and I got the 3d model that. So, uh, I reached out to him and he done some concept for me, for my characters, and all of it looks gorgeous and I still can make this all still going.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1:

That's right, but right now it just doesn't matter as much as everything else, so I wasn't able to do that and that was kind of a loss. Sadly, all the Concepts and everything are still backlogged in a folder, so I still have all that we can go back to it at any time. But now, if I make a game, it's obviously gonna be a psycho silico game. I'm thinking I'm thinking Mortal Kombat 2 fighter, where you get to fight All of the characters as the characters. You get to fight Carol against Izzy.

Speaker 2:

So we got a ton of listeners here Mortal Kombat who are like who are? Like fighters, like like tournament level like. Like just want to play fighters all the time.

Speaker 1:

I just want to bring like a classic Mortal Kombat 2. So where it wasn't, all about like super calm, like you know combo juggling. It was like you know, throw out a little combo here and there, then like Swoop back in and try to do another one, or they get in and get it. There's like more spaces for open opportunity Given.

Speaker 1:

You know, some people are yeah or really fucking good and can just juggle the entire time and then I get mad. We don't play fighter games on on lives, so y'all will never get to watch me play Mortal Kombat 2 you just gotta invite somebody just comes in, jump, kick, jump, kick, jump, kick, sweep, sweep, sweep uppercut.

Speaker 3:

That's why I hate fighters because, I will play with my wife and, like I'm trying to do sick combo. She's tapping it and I literally fucking you in less Halo jump kicks.

Speaker 2:

That was my suggestion. I don't know why I can't beat it. I was just playing against somebody's girlfriend who just If you have a girlfriend or wife that you lost him you lose, tap buttons.

Speaker 1:

Play sub zero, freezer, uppercut freeze.

Speaker 3:

And that's what I'll tell you in the pep of duty that she gets mad she won't play anymore. So you gotta, you gotta, pay her to a degree so you so the.

Speaker 2:

The game didn't work out, didn't have the time. Um right, finish the game.

Speaker 1:

So I just started doing psycho silico before it was even named psycho silico.

Speaker 1:

It was, uh, it was a little picture thing first, Like I just took pictures and wrote short stories to go along, sound it's supposed to be like 12 pictures, and then I was gonna be done. And then I was like I really loved my facelift picture, which is the green and blue one, with, uh, taylor and carol and they're going out of out of debora but uh, I wanted to make a video with that same lighting, that same Vibe that I did with that photo. So I took it back and I tried again and I made it into a video instead and that that that went really well and that sparked me to continue on making more and more videos. I hate asmr. I used to hate asmr. I thought it was the dumbest fucking shit. I absolutely thought it was ridiculous. So you just squeeze some goos and that's it.

Speaker 2:

That's it. No, fuck that.

Speaker 1:

Let's do more. Let's, let's, let's I love it Really, fucking got something up. Let's, let's show something that's Satisfying to watch get mutilated. Let's show something that feels good to fucking mutilate impacts on the people's carnal sides.

Speaker 3:

I love that people don't understand, like, how satisfying it is to watch those videos. And yeah, like the infamous video that like we were kind of talking about in pre-show, like, or the face comes off very lifelike face thumb, fish in the mouth, literally the stitches that came from down ticket talk. They're like what? No, bro, not the thumb, what are you doing that thumb? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I watched it like like four times and was like yeah, you get to watch that get to watch that in the movie.

Speaker 1:

So, that's awesome. So so I saved up a bunch of money. We're just gonna fast forward. I saved a bunch of money and I was like we're gonna make a fucking movie. Yeah so I decided to make a fucking movie and I had the backing and the supporters on tick, tock and the following and I was For sure. I feel confident.

Speaker 2:

Well and from the community, man, but I mean, like people are, you know, pumped about it and and it says a lot about Like your creativity and you in general that Fucking everybody's behind you. Like it's gonna be, you know it's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 1:

Do you know how surreal of a feeling that is to know?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. No, I don't know what that's like, because because I it's fucking weird.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it doesn't feel real and I prefer it that way.

Speaker 3:

The more surreal and unreal life can become, the better it is yeah yeah, see, this thing I fucking love about it is like as soon as I found out that you were coming back home to kind of set everything you know, do it at that one specific theater, which I think the theater is phenomenal. I don't even know, I don't know if you remember this, but we were even having a conversation. I said why don't you think about doing it there?

Speaker 1:

You remember that? I do remember that I wanted to do it at the drive-in, though.

Speaker 3:

I know you want the drive-in in nature I really wanted the drive-in.

Speaker 3:

I really wanted the drive-in, but that dude ghosted me and he doesn't answer my messages anymore, so, uh, his loss, I guess well, I guess then the drive, the drive-in is perfect for, like obviously, the horror state, yeah, but I think the smaller theater, the smaller venue, but also being able to do like the personal intro Interlude in and then able to be able to do a Q&A after you would lose that probably in a drive-in Right setting. So I think that's just me personally. I love that you're doing it in this venue instead.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I do too, like I, I'm absolutely. It's more intimate.

Speaker 2:

It is Last thing I can remember that venue, heaven, was a crisps vacation that was phenomenal yeah. I love the Christmas movies. I love the venue.

Speaker 1:

The venue has such a nice like aesthetic to it to it's real clean. They've updated some things in it. It's really nice. I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3:

It reminds me of an old theater that I went to in Lakeston, kentucky, when I was at University of Kentucky. I fucking love this place every Halloween I don't know if they're still doing it. I'm wanting to say the theater was called the old Kentucky or old Kentucky or something like that but basically what they would do it was an old rundown movie theater that they've been renovating that kept them like the rustic vibe of it. Every Halloween they would do rocky horror, oh killer. But instead of just showing rocky horror they brought all the Theater majors and things like that from UK and they would go up and down the aisling character. So when the big, huge dance scenes and stuff would come out, they would do crowd engagement, spray blood, everything, everything. And maybe you were encouraged to come in character and things like that as well too. So that's why I love that you picked that venue. It gives. It takes me back to rocky horror vibes and that was the first time I'd ever seen rocky horror was in that theater in that type of environment.

Speaker 2:

Now I can't watch it anymore because you watched it in the environment.

Speaker 3:

It's not the rocky horror that I became in love. You know I fell in love with, so Just being able to go to that venue, I think it's phenomenal, for that and you have.

Speaker 2:

You know the genre that you're in. Obviously you have a love for and so here's the funny part.

Speaker 3:

I'm glad you're leading to this, because this is a little tidbit that I got actually on the drive over. You don't watch a whole lot of movies, no, no, no, no, that blew my mind, that came out as it blew my mind.

Speaker 2:

I guess I could see what's, what's your reasoning behind it. I don't see if I'm right.

Speaker 1:

I don't have enough fucking time yeah.

Speaker 2:

All right, that's. That's probably that. I don't imagine you get time to watch a bunch of movies. If I have time to do something.

Speaker 1:

It's going to be a play in a fucking video game right. Yeah, that's what I want to do. That's the best way to spend my time, because it's it keeps me engaged, keeps me active, and it gives it gives me ideas, especially with rpg.

Speaker 2:

I don't think you need to. I don't think you need to be like a movie buff to make a movie, though.

Speaker 3:

I think it's actually a bit more. It kind of makes it more that you are.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because your ideas are much more original than things you've seen.

Speaker 1:

See, I still do get inspired by the things that I see. Well, sure, like I'll still see things, but I won't fully engage it. Like I'm like, oh OK, that fucked with me a little bit. Let's go ahead and lock that behind somewhere. Let's come back to that. Let's revisit that in the future. Until you see it in purple and green. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Ha, ha, ha ha. Oh, yeah, I love that. So you went to school for it, right for filmmaking.

Speaker 1:

No game design.

Speaker 2:

Game design. I knew how to make films.

Speaker 1:

It came naturally, so I used to make little films with my friends.

Speaker 3:

Love them.

Speaker 1:

It was just a good time, like I didn't give a shit about it, I didn't fucking care. But then I started realizing my friends didn't take my advice. I was like, hey, let's do something like this, I want to make this, let's try it like this. And they're like, no, we're going to do it this way. And I'm like, oh well, fuck you.

Speaker 3:

I'm one of my biggest friends and I'll do it Is when he worked for me Multiple times said I need a cameraman. Come out here with me. I know you've always wanted to do this. Let's go videotape some shit yeah you should have done it. Let's go fuck some shit up and I know, go ahead and flip me off, I get it.

Speaker 1:

I embrace it. Do you know how fucking hard it is to find a fucking camera operator? Do you know how fucking difficult that is? Excuse me, do you know what I ended up using A tripod?

Speaker 2:

for a lot of money Shit.

Speaker 1:

I still do. Everything that I make, including my set, is hand built by myself.

Speaker 3:

Setting up a tripod motherfucking right out, is it? Just listening to me.

Speaker 2:

15 fucking years. Right, I could be out here fucking.

Speaker 3:

I'm not going to be setting this tripod up. I'm seriously like well, back then it could already be done. Asher was a newborn yeah, so there was a lot of newly married, newborn child.

Speaker 2:

Excuses, I mean, I was.

Speaker 3:

Excuses.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's one excuse. That excuse is one of the reasons why I never got married. I never will get married and I never plan to have a child. Definitely not an excuse.

Speaker 3:

I get what you're saying and I love that. See me personally one of my dream jobs that I've ever had and I'm going to go. Ooh, I always wanted a family. I've always been the family guy. My brother got there first and depressed the shit out of me because he had a family before I did. I hate you. That's just the way I've always been.

Speaker 1:

I was one of the kids and I can respect that actually, because we do need people out there.

Speaker 3:

That's like that yeah, but that's yeah. There's a lot of stuff going on at that point in time. Plus, I was a store manager at GameStop.

Speaker 1:

Do you have any regrets?

Speaker 2:

No, I mean, I wish I would have done it.

Speaker 3:

I would still love to do it at some point now, just to be able to exercise that part of my dream, like I would love to be getting into some type of creative building to that degree, but like looking back and things like that.

Speaker 2:

It's like seriously.

Speaker 3:

That's why I'm so pumped now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Actually I want to do workshops.

Speaker 2:

Like after I screen my movie.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to consider doing workshops, and then you know what I'm going to do I'm going to scout people and take them from their jobs so they can work for them.

Speaker 2:

We're all about it. That sounds wonderful. We will be behind you at 1,000%.

Speaker 1:

See, I need heads for painful productions. I need you all to help me.

Speaker 3:

I love the actual name of the production studio. Hold on, oh, breaking it, breaking it. Oh yeah, take it off. We got to unwind.

Speaker 1:

It's real slow and easy for you.

Speaker 2:

I'm not sure what's happened, if this was planned or what, none of this was planned.

Speaker 3:

It's the purple lighting Row with it. Row with it. I mean I'm here for it. We just go with the flow.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know if I just needed it.

Speaker 3:

You make eye contact with it. Lid really don't know what we're talking about You're not going to be looking as dick. It's actually a logo. Watch me.

Speaker 2:

I believe it. Oh, I love it. That is beautiful, very cool.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, beautiful. I'm kind of pissed that that's not going to be available for sale.

Speaker 1:

It's not because it took six hours to cut it out, and that's the only reason yeah. God, the scan that I gave Kate was a bit, so it's a charcoal drawing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and she's good at what she does too, yeah.

Speaker 1:

She made some merch for us. Caitlin Campbell actually did the design and then she did it with charcoal and then I sent it to Caitlin, to Nell to put it on a shirt for a while Is that we've done this.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, does she do her own work? Like does she make money off of this stuff?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Plug this shit. What's the name? Again, what?

Speaker 1:

up Kate.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, what up, kate? I didn't know that We've talked about it before, maybe you weren't here. I may not have been here. I'm a bit much more invested now. This is awesome Childhood, for I love it.

Speaker 1:

Everything that's going on at this event in Norton is literally used by. It's a dream team that I've been watching people for a very long time and I've been watching how good it is what they do. I've been hanging out with them, talking to them, watching them from afar, and I noticed Katelyn Tonell does the best damn shirts I've ever seen in this area.

Speaker 2:

They're good. Yeah, they're awesome.

Speaker 1:

And then on top of that I've got the club truck involved, because Mike Anata's fucking chicken is amazing, so the club truck has to be involved and that's why it's only VIP. I asked him, I said so how many people can you feed within a decent time frame? That makes it reasonable? He said about 100. I said you're going to do 80. I said can you do 80? And he's like absolutely. He's like I've got four things for the menu. I said no, you don't. You have two things for the menu because we don't want to give people too many options, because that will keep the friars busy.

Speaker 1:

Sounds like you'll get everything done on time, then oh yeah, everything should be like you walk up, it's ready to go. Here it is. That's the idea. What's the idea? There's some in the window there.

Speaker 3:

I'm pretty sure Micah hates me, you're going to get yourself. I'll throw that out there. So I'm trying to overcome some things here.

Speaker 1:

It's OK.

Speaker 3:

I know it's not Micah's fault New business things like that but we had a slight episode up at the call sooner one day and I was very vocal about it on podcast. So, micah, if you're listening to this, no, we're at. I feel like we can meet in the middle somewhere and agree.

Speaker 2:

I promise I will let it go. No publicity's bad publicity At least.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, oh, look at them. They're going to join back together and be, friends, all because of this psychotic asshole who likes to trip.

Speaker 2:

Who knew what would bring you together like that, oh Lord.

Speaker 1:

Just some dude that likes to wear doll faces.

Speaker 3:

Listen, as long as I get some of that Nashville hot chicken, I'm fine with it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's good, I'm good. I'll run with it. I'm good all the time for the food.

Speaker 1:

So you're at VIP right? Oh yeah, then you're getting some of that chicken.

Speaker 3:

I'm fucking right Pumped about it Because I'm pumped about the shirt and once again shout out WhatUpGate.

Speaker 1:

Also we got a shout out SplitHoof Design for making the design to that shirt. Fun story about that. So I did Horror Fest over in Johnson City Again, another long fucking drive, but it was definitely worth it. So when I was there, SplitHoof was also there. They did a short film called Trust, which is fucking so good. But check them out too.

Speaker 2:

But plug whoever. That's what we're all about.

Speaker 1:

He watched my 10 minute demo cut of the film that I hastily put together because the film was not done.

Speaker 3:

I was trying to have it ready. I remember you stressed about that a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was trying to have it ready.

Speaker 1:

Write it through. I had it rendered out three days before. Do you know how long it takes me to render my movie? It takes, it says, 72 hours at first, and then that number will climb and it'll be a little bit four to five days.

Speaker 3:

So explain very quickly. I'm not trying to get in technical jargon, but rendering. Render Explain that.

Speaker 1:

So I run my renders through four to five passes, and the first pass usually can be done in about 12 hours. Well, the fourth pass is where all the pretty colors come in and mix everything up that shine.

Speaker 3:

So it's basically like contrast, no relays and stuff is what you're doing when you're rendering yes, so that fourth pass.

Speaker 2:

Feel like a little harder in audio or anything.

Speaker 1:

Oh god, I can only imagine. Oh, the fourth pass, though, that's when it has to go by frame by frame by frame, and each frame will take 15 minutes to 45 minutes depending on the color balance. The more darks that are in there to make sure that they go through properly and the contrast is balanced, can take up to an hour for one frame, one frame out of a movie that has thousands of frames. Now I'll do a shoot 23.976 frames per second, so you get 24 frames for the most part. So 24 pictures makes one second. So with those 24 pictures that's wild One second can take easily one day to render, depending on how my settings are set.

Speaker 2:

So that's in 4K and that's all the non-glamorous words that people get to say that. Bendy straw.

Speaker 1:

Funny story. I think I followers get to see my Bendy straw Funny story about the Bendy straw.

Speaker 2:

Has a Bendy straw. They're drinking out of their water and my little girl, who's 10, got it and was so pumped about tonight because she thinks she likes horror until she's around it and then she's like actually I changed my mind.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to run the fuck up out of here.

Speaker 2:

Make her get that Bendy straw.

Speaker 3:

She kind of squealed a little bit, I would have definitely played it easy. I hold up like that much more and she's like huh. I already immediately made an impression today. I've done my job.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 3:

We got my feel. I definitely want to come back to, like you said, the festival. I had a quick question. You're talking about each frame. How long would you say? I'd say you probably don't have an exact time. How long did it take you to make this movie?

Speaker 2:

Man hour. You could push that out of your face if you need to.

Speaker 1:

I like it in my face.

Speaker 2:

That, that.

Speaker 1:

I didn't even notice that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know you didn't so like I said, I have barely any vision, but so the man hours that I put behind it. I can tell you my hours that I worked because I didn't record anything on paper because everything is vile based. So what I did was after I filmed the movie in 2022, I filmed it in eight days eight fucking days, plus maybe nine days because I did have to go back through and do some reshoots for some shots that I didn't have before. So we made it work. But I ended up taking a week off, went to the beach, had to have a vacation from a vacation, and then I started editing. I put all the tick to the side, I started editing and what I would do is I would sleep all day. I'd wake up probably around like 1 o'clock to a clock pm, then around 6, 7 pm, I would have a coffee with some space honey.

Speaker 1:

And literally the label that I put on it. I had space honey every single day that I shot. So when you're watching this movie, just remember every day was a big spoon full of space honey. While I was doing this setting up cameras, running cameras in character, out of character, changing things.

Speaker 3:

Was you the only person like the production crew?

Speaker 1:

No, the production crew was definitely skeleton though. This production crew had me and it had David Nix, it had Ben Link from Zelda.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know from Zelda. Yeah, I really did that. I've never played a.

Speaker 3:

Zelda game before.

Speaker 1:

What the?

Speaker 2:

fuck. What are you talking about?

Speaker 3:

Worked at GameStop for six years Never played a Zelda game.

Speaker 2:

But if they asked you about it there, you would say I played every one of them greatest games ever fucking made.

Speaker 3:

Which is can you? That is, my mama thought it was the devil. Ok, fuck off of it, leave it alone.

Speaker 1:

So anyway, so we have. Then we had Jody Wright. She was our makeup staff did an amazing job. Then we have our co-star, which was Alyssa Keller. That was it. That was everybody on set every day, back to back eight hour days there was a lot of work.

Speaker 2:

Oh so how many? How many actors to just to write? That's what.

Speaker 1:

I will say that my mother did help. My mother is in the scene, oh, and my brother, greg, but they, they, they came in and helped out and they were like, yeah, no, we'll be a stand in for you, but they weren't there every single day. They were there for the first day of filming and they, they got their parts taken care of relatively quick. So, greg Payne, loretta Payne, you know, they came in and helped out.

Speaker 2:

Shout out Greg Loretta.

Speaker 1:

Greg Loretta. My mommy made us food too. Isn't that awesome, she, she catered.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it doesn't make a difference, I guess. So that's what I love, though.

Speaker 3:

Like my, one of my favorite film directors is Kevin Smith. Love Kevin Smith and I love that closing scene in clerks when his moms in the floor like checking for the newest or the best date of milk. I love seeing the moms embrace it, because sometimes it's hard to really do this type of stuff if you don't have at least some form of embracing around, like because I know there's going to be times like it was pulling teeth.

Speaker 1:

I'll say it like my mom was.

Speaker 2:

My mom has been on the podcast. Yes, when she gets your mom on the podcast, no, ha ha ha, that'd be my favorite thing of all time. I think your mom on the podcast. I would dress up like the devil.

Speaker 3:

Probably would not run over a wheel. So, from what you're saying, cast and crew sounds like it's around five to seven folks. Yes, somewhere in that network. Five people for three days, which is impressive, and then that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

We also had DJ Hall who would come in and he would help out on every other day that he could and he did an amazing job, being like grip and just being super versatile and flexible, and I'm going to teach him how to run sound next time, because I rigged my camera up to also, so camera operator A was also the sound engineer and the sound off world not engineer the sound operator. My sound engineer was a post production and that was destiny Stansbury and he did an amazing job because it was a last minute situation Cause originally I wasn't supposed to have a score there's going to be zero.

Speaker 3:

That's the only. My next question was score, no music. It was designed Perfectly in.

Speaker 1:

All this was designed for none. It was all going to be based off of the. Asmr sounds and just the natural sounds of it.

Speaker 3:

Sound like that too, though.

Speaker 1:

Yeah See, but guess what? That felt empty and I did it. I don't like how I couldn't put enough sound effects in there when I did. It would just muddy everything up, and I was like you know what, this ain't working out, this ain't working out.

Speaker 2:

You guys love space to feel right yeah.

Speaker 3:

I respect that. That definitely makes a lot of sense, but it's still.

Speaker 2:

ASMR heavy anyway, though. Oh, definitely there is, yeah.

Speaker 1:

The last, the last five scenes, the last 15, 20 minutes of the movie. That's going to be controversial, I think for some people it's either great. You're so excited, I'm so excited, that's either it's either going to go over people's heads and they're going to be like I don't fucking get it, what is going on here? Or they're going to be like oh my God, this is okay.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I see where this is going, and then they get into it.

Speaker 1:

So, it depends it's going to. It's going to be like taking a cold shower at first, but if you've watched my stuff on TikTok and Instagram and all these things and you've seen what I'm doing, then you'll understand the concept and the idea of what uncanny valley is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it feels like like people who follow you are going to understand the movie more but it but like you don't have to obviously follow your work to see it.

Speaker 1:

But it helps, it definitely helps, it helps, I thought it helps understand the story. So I actually based off of some responses from some closed viewers. They were like look, we don't watch your TikToks, we're like old.

Speaker 1:

So we're not going to download TikTok either. And I was like, well, that's your loss. And they were like, but you're missing out on a lot of people when you just throw them into this world and they don't know shit about it. And I'm like you're right. So what I did was I took some of my at Visser all playlist from TikTok and I've inserted that into the very beginning of the film to get some back story of like what's going on.

Speaker 2:

That's no, that's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1:

Some spoon feeding you all a little bit which goes against everything that I believe in. I don't want to feed you content and story. I want you to suffer. I want you to struggle and scroll through a bunch of shit, years and years of work that I've done. I want you to suffer and find it. But the last but alas, I didn't do that and I gave y'all a little spoonful.

Speaker 3:

There's one video that's my favorite and I don't know if you've seen it yet, but we're going to watch it when we're done recording later. It's daddy's girl. Daddy's girl is my favorite video, so I will. It's my favorite video.

Speaker 2:

I'm behind. I was recently introduced to your work and then got engulfed in it for like a week and just watched and just watched the ton of shit and I was just hanging out in your lives.

Speaker 1:

So you've seen the shows, yeah. What do you think about the set? I mean, I love everything.

Speaker 2:

I love everything that you do. I think it's great. I think the sense of nominal.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think the, I think it's like how much time we're in to building that out.

Speaker 1:

I did it in like three weeks, but I worked on it like every day, yeah it was a I went out. I never built anything before and I think I'm going to have to build my house with my own fucking hands. I'm pretty sure that's the right way. That's the route it's going with the way things are looking. So I am going to literally fucking have to learn how to build. So I was like all right, what are we going to build?

Speaker 1:

TikTok's giving me some money from the lovely support team and the followers who get my fine ass artworks that I love you all, so so much, thank you, thank you, thank you, anyways, cause they, they, they, they fuel me to make crazy shit that I love to make, and then they, they, they, they donate to the project cause I don't sell anything, I don't have nothing, nothing's for sale. It's all donation. If you love my work, then support me with what you can.

Speaker 2:

I think people would watch you in character build a house.

Speaker 1:

I think they would too. But here's the problem Visually I can't see fucking shit.

Speaker 2:

I think that's why they watch you try to use a bandsaw.

Speaker 3:

It'd be an interesting fucking house.

Speaker 2:

They'd be like trying to watch you.

Speaker 3:

Trying to watch you saw logs, somebody trying to build a freaking house and fall out forward.

Speaker 1:

That's what it?

Speaker 3:

would look like yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't think it would be that clean. I don't think it would be either. So my house is actually dedicated to my work, the blueprints and everything that I've been working on and laying out. My house is dedicated. Three fourths of the house is a studio, and that should be and one fourth, of it is a studio apartment. If.

Speaker 2:

I build a house now. It would definitely have a huge studio, oh yeah. The bottom floor would be a studio.

Speaker 1:

Nice, as you should.

Speaker 2:

It's, it's. It's great to have one Basketball court.

Speaker 3:

See, my big thing is like we're discussing all this and like the film nerd side of me is like I'm still like film geeking, like I have so many questions.

Speaker 2:

Ask him. He's been like I got it.

Speaker 3:

Like it's like it comes across as vanilla, as fucking questions.

Speaker 1:

But does it Because you know there's a lot of people who don't understand what goes on underneath the hood.

Speaker 3:

Location scouting. Location scouting that's a big thing for me. Like that's me where I always wanted to kind of embark on the production side of things like producing. How hard was it for you to find the perfect location for how you wanted to.

Speaker 1:

So where I went to college at, they had a side place where they did animal. They the college didn't do animal testing on it An old facility beforehand did animal testing on it and when those places were doing their bits they got done with it. So they sold it up and the college Perfect. That's awesome. Yeah, so so the facility of Silicose Solutions is actually used to be an animal testing facility.

Speaker 2:

Oh you know what would be a great place? That place in Jenkins, that place in Jenkins, the nursing home on top of the hill. Oh, dude, no, no, come on, that's awesome, oh, it would be perfect.

Speaker 3:

You ain't getting me in there.

Speaker 2:

There's an old nursing home. It's abandoned in. Jenkins, I want to check it out. Yeah, just want to walk around.

Speaker 1:

Did you see the videos of Vicki wandering around that old school? Now we won't say the name of this old school for legal reasons, but that was a fucking crazy night. Can I share a story?

Speaker 2:

Please Fire away.

Speaker 1:

So when you're an abandoning, when you're exploring abandoned places, you always carry a little bit of protection. So I had a friend with me who carried said protection while I had all my film equipment and lights with me in this abandoned schoolhouse. So I'm setting lights up but this place was fucking packed, this whole school. It's like 11 pm and it's packed with people just exploring it.

Speaker 2:

What the fuck.

Speaker 1:

It's weird, it was fucking so, so bizarre and it was like kids.

Speaker 2:

It kind of ruins the ruins part of it. No, it don't. Why don't you stay tuned?

Speaker 3:

Why don't you just buckle the fuck up and see where we go.

Speaker 1:

So, like all these, random people are there and then I'm decked out as Vicki, you know. Yeah, if you haven't seen Vicki, she's the one with the teeth. Yes, but so I have her roaming around these halls and these kids are like oh shit. And then I hear a taser going off and I'm like, is that all you got?

Speaker 2:

So I have.

Speaker 1:

I have protection behind me and I'm like, don't do it. But if they come at me with that taser, go away.

Speaker 3:

See, that's the part I missed at the beginning of the story is that you were in character. Absolutely, that makes it a completely different situation.

Speaker 1:

Lost. So, that'd be awful.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, run into the awful I bumped off the hill in this old school. That'd be epic.

Speaker 1:

So let me paint a picture so what Vicki looks like. Vicki has red hair, super jacked up teeth. I'm actually running through Vicki's creation again on TikTok reposting, and so Vicki's got fucked up teeth and red hair. She wears a not a nightgown, but a hospital gown saturated with blood, and carries a syringe. No, a crutch.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

She's got a gimp leg. Carol help out with that. Anyway, I'm hobbling around this old school like this with all these funky lights going on and these kids are like mother fuck. They're fucking loosing it, so after I get all my shots and everything. We ended up befriending them. They showed me their taser. We talked shit for a minute. It was a good time, you know, they were just they were like I want to play and I was like, okay, well, let's play manhunt when I get done getting my shots and I put all my camera equipment back up.

Speaker 1:

Let's fucking play manhunt.

Speaker 3:

That's like one of your favorite games of all time.

Speaker 2:

Oh fucking love manhunt yeah.

Speaker 1:

I was going to go live as Vicky and chasing, hunt these kids down to the school Kids I've never met Kids, I don't fucking know. I'm pretty sure they graduated from there, so they weren't really kids, but they were younger than me so I was like all right, let's play manhunt.

Speaker 1:

So I load all my gear up and by the time it's time to play manhunt, this school is dead, ass empty. But they're fucking. I bet it was Dude. There was no one there anymore. I walked back through looking for them. They were gone. So on the drive back, man, my friend was shooting this shit and we're like you know fun concept, I'm going to take out and play manhunt. They were ghosts, like these kids were dead and like we were just kind of like interacting with like some past bullshit, like how fucking cool would that be? Trippy shit.

Speaker 2:

You know, just, yeah, I guess, if it was full, that's what, because the whole thing seems weird anyway that it was full, dude, it was loaded with random fucking people just walk around.

Speaker 3:

Experiences like that, like literally like the Like the trip that you just took us home with that story. I can easily see that as a movie. Yeah, that's why I love, like you probably pull inspiration from the most fucked up places in the world, like there's just something that is so simple to happen in one night.

Speaker 1:

I put myself in some very iffy positions like so. I used to surround myself with people who were scared of everything.

Speaker 2:

I like that, I like that concept.

Speaker 1:

But when you get rid of those people, no, no, it don't help you feed off of it, it fucking cages you in when you get rid of the people who are scared and fear fucking everything. No, that's when life gets more interesting, because you don't have a fucking anchor keeping there's no boundaries.

Speaker 1:

Yes, if I want to fucking just go explore a random fucking schoolhouse it's been abandoned for like five, six years in the middle of the fucking night Alone well, not necessarily completely alone, but with a friend I can I've been in that building alone. I've wandered around it completely by myself, just empty as fuck. One night like 3 am Just roaming.

Speaker 2:

I definitely would watch a ton of content where it was just Vicky I mean any of them. I would run around the place.

Speaker 3:

I just think about around now like how cool that be just to really kind of go through that that whole dirt process. I think if you could get set up a couple cams really actually get yeah. Like steady footage of like down the hallway and things like that, but then like with a GoPro perspective and you're going through like each room. I Think that'd be epic so you can't do that shit.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you have the lighting and stuff, so you need people to help actually these lights are extremely portable.

Speaker 1:

I'm just trying to battery life.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get round to go with you.

Speaker 1:

If he comes with me, we'll go to that nursing. I will drive the hours it takes to get here to come to this fucking nursing home.

Speaker 3:

I would love at some point, like I said, I mean, ultimately, the whole premise of this is dream jobs. At some point I know I've already bailed enough go ahead, give me the middle finger again. I've already bailed enough to earn that, but there would be some point in the future I would love to embark back back down that path. I feel like I've said embark like 15 times. I'm fucking stupid.

Speaker 1:

There's a chance you can bark.

Speaker 3:

There's bark, bark, but I would love Just to be able to see that to you know, experience saying move through so do you want to?

Speaker 2:

do you want to talk about the date of the? I know they're mostly the VIPs are mostly sold out, right?

Speaker 1:

They are so the.

Speaker 2:

VIPs are gone. What about normal?

Speaker 1:

So I haven't put those up yet. Okay, let me run over this real quick.

Speaker 2:

So, VIPs.

Speaker 1:

This fucking blew my mind. I want to thank every single person who fucking got one of those, because that was only 80, and I say only. That was a lot like I was. Yeah, this is the minimum number of people I need to be able to pull this off successfully. So, these people who paid in advance, thank you for allowing me to make the t-shirts, get the club truck and on top of that, get the venue and the Photographer, who's gonna be Chandler Cole. Oh, awesome. Yeah, he's gonna be the photographer for it.

Speaker 2:

I was hoping to go on his show to announce it.

Speaker 1:

But uh, you're busy. Good luck. Good luck in Vegas, friend, kill them that's I mean. Go do that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean if you got chance to go to Vegas and whatever, whatever, oh, he's still gonna be there.

Speaker 1:

We just haven't done a show you can you can be here all the time.

Speaker 2:

We're good with that.

Speaker 3:

Listen, I've enjoyed this. I can't we've done.

Speaker 1:

You don't get to say, oh, I've enjoyed this, as if we're at least, and this is your show.

Speaker 3:

You've taken, you came in takeover, you do whatever you need to do Excellent.

Speaker 1:

It's not over. Until I say it's over, I'm here for it. Do you know how rare it is for me to go live with people?

Speaker 3:

Would y'all?

Speaker 1:

like to see the people that I'm I'm sitting with here. Let's show the room. Here's our friends wave to the TikTok people. Everybody wave at I'm Stacy.

Speaker 2:

I don't paid lunch on tiktok.

Speaker 1:

You can actually get a different perspective from that life but, it's not my beautiful fucking face, and y'all are here from.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, don't leave his live, just get another phone and go join ours. We got how many? We got live? None none.

Speaker 1:

Well, go check them out, go jump in there hot.

Speaker 3:

I'm fine with it. I could care less about eating. Yeah, that was my biggest things. I just wanted to hear the stories and stuff.

Speaker 1:

See, I'm not even really paying attention to this, because this night is about. This interaction is about I love it with us. That's why we're 5050.

Speaker 2:

We were we were very pumped. I mean to get you here so and I'm happy to have you in character Do you want to talk about you?

Speaker 1:

Well, actually I want to thank you all because for that shout out you did, I really do appreciate that. That means the fucking world to me. So when you get local support like that, that means everything to me, because there's there's thousands of people you can reach on the internet but, like you all are people that you know I have a good chance of running into when I come back to this area to visit.

Speaker 2:

Right and.

Speaker 1:

I come back to this area quite a bit to visit, so there's a good chance I'm gonna run into you and you know that's. That means a lot more to me to have someone that I know personally.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's that's how we are, too right. I mean, it's like can't be more grateful for all the people that like locally, that listen to us and and watch us and support us, and that's why you're you know the stuff you're doing is local. You know, currently, hopefully in the future you know it's, you know all over the place, but currently your current work is local.

Speaker 1:

So I would like to move my studio to be local, but right now we have to drive a little bit to do the things and that's. Yeah, and that's hampering on the problems of everything and that's part of it.

Speaker 2:

We record. I mean we record when we can, because oh yeah, it's like family commitments Ideally we'd record in the middle of the day and we have, you know, families and have so much things going on, so we get that that it's like when you can do it, where you can do it, how you can do it.

Speaker 3:

It's the best way. The one thing that we really set out for when we started this was a sense of empowerment, like there's so many people working dead in friggin bullshit nine to fives that they hate really, kind of depressed, contemplating ungodly things, and you know, when you actually get a bit able to have an interaction with someone like you, that is really embraced, cutting that bullshit out, we're all right. This is me, this is the path that I want to tread down, this is where I want my creative outlet to be, this is what brings me joy and things like that. I can't say that about my job. There's some things I do love about it, but to be able to say is this what I want to be doing?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is what I want to be doing ten years.

Speaker 1:

Well, sure no?

Speaker 3:

it's not. I mean, even while we're going through this I know sometimes we get a little bit heavy on things, sometimes more lie-hearted. I ultimately in the day, I just want to make people laugh. I enjoy that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah same.

Speaker 3:

I know you're in the same way.

Speaker 2:

I live for it.

Speaker 3:

No that's me like God knows, I'm not attractive, so might as well be funny. All right, listen, I think I am baby. Listen, I'm fat, bald and hairy. There ain't nothing attractive going on on this side.

Speaker 2:

It's smack you in the head like that.

Speaker 1:

Dad's boss are in.

Speaker 2:

Like it way and we're way in, so listen, dadbots.

Speaker 3:

By the way, I won't throw this out here. I don't know if I actually brought this going dad talk about Aster's friend coming spend the night and make him follow my cut-off shirt brought it up on the previous episode.

Speaker 3:

It happened again. He was there last night like if I don't know why I keep having 19 year old kids judging my man nipples. Maybe wear a bra on there around, maybe I need to, but like that's twice now and consecutive weekends that I've been told I have weird man titties. Wear some pasties. I'm just gonna get them pierced and that run like a chain through him or something.

Speaker 2:

You fucking won't.

Speaker 3:

I won't, prince Albert.

Speaker 1:

Nipples are always gonna be sensitive after you get on pierced. George pierced no, but my girlfriends are. You gotta be careful, you gotta be careful.

Speaker 3:

It's my pierced. No, you should get on pierced, I should.

Speaker 2:

Nah, give the kid, I mean it. Give the kid a reason not to bring up like oh, they would be a whole, completely different conversations.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's, you know you feel better about it. Question question Are your nipples long enough to give them the good old Jacob's ladder?

Speaker 3:

No, damn it, you're missing. I don't have the puffy nips. That works that way I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I want you to have the nipples like from scary movie to.

Speaker 2:

Tim Curry's Listen. So it's funny. Before the show we were talking about the structure of the show and it's like like what we were gonna do and like we were gonna go. I was like sometimes we just don't know what we're talking about. Sometimes we end up talking about how long Rides nipples are.

Speaker 1:

Unstructured is the best. Organs chaos and this used to be my boss. Guys just say I. Didn't really talk about my nipples back in the day, no, but we talked about some other things I definitely would have got, and we talked about some fucked up shit.

Speaker 3:

I had hair back then too, by the way.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I know, I've seen you pretty a it was within good company.

Speaker 3:

It was not epic, it was, it was our hair.

Speaker 2:

Well, you were had too much, I think it's why I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, listen. I've spent the line that over the last 48 hours no less than 13 hours on a baseball field with a freshly shaved head, with no hat on. Right now it feels like if someone just even took a deep breath over my head, my flesh would melt off.

Speaker 2:

We were um that'd be pretty cool so it didn't matter like how far we're gonna rush through things. It was like how far we have to push through Getting through, you know, all the ball games and everything you had to do and was just like Todd was gonna be there tonight. So, yeah, we got there it worked out Like I got.

Speaker 3:

I was telling we were having conversation on the way over as, like, if it looks like I'm just Completely drained and I don't give a shit right now, just give me like 30, like, let me get there, let me get some pizza, I mean we'll be good to go. Okay, we'll be good to go at that point. So one thing I wanted to kind of come back to what's getting film nerd now here, the convention? We said we could come back to that. The one you said was in Johnson City, yeah, how many different films and things like that they have injured it. Was it more horror based or was it like films in general?

Speaker 3:

Well, it sounds like a 747 is getting land on top of your house. I don't know what that sound never heard that noise before. I don't know either duck in row.

Speaker 2:

Did you bring that noise?

Speaker 1:

So if I hear a big boom, I'm just gonna take cover under the table Hopefully, you're applying did land on this house once.

Speaker 2:

Oh right, that was the pinnacle, oh.

Speaker 3:

Oh, my bad movie festival movie festivals.

Speaker 1:

About 13 films played that night and it ranged from a variety of audiences or filmmakers. It ranged from people who don't make horror to people who do make horror, to people who put a lot of money and budget Into their horror films, versus people with zero to virtually no budget. It was just a little bit of everyone and it was great to see that kind of crowd.

Speaker 3:

So I'm assuming bigger budget is always gonna be effect related. They're just gonna have to be you know, you probably, like I said, I'm not seeing anything on the film yet. I'm gonna be honest, I'm glad I've not seen the team in it. I'm glad I'm going in kind of blind. I'm excited about that.

Speaker 1:

Just know that I wrote it, scream played it Halfway, screenplayed it. I'm gonna be honest with you. I wrote out a shot list but I didn't do the little sketches I just wrote about, and then, throughout the midway through filming, I had to take pictures of what I seen in my head to be like this is what I'm seeing camera man this is what I'm seeing.

Speaker 2:

I get it, so I had to convey it to them in a better way. So that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

So before shooting, after like day three of filming, I would go through a each scene and just get the camera shots that I wanted and Take pictures of it then. So I did all that, I edited it, color, corrected it Literally the entire process like all the way through, except for the things that I physically could not do. And I did camera operate on a few scenes. Yeah, and If you're wondering which scenes those are after the film, ask it during the Q&A.

Speaker 2:

I'd love to explain them sweet, because are you gonna be there for the Q&A?

Speaker 1:

Fuck, yeah, I might skip it out on that. I'd be disappointed if you wasn't. I will be there, so I don't expect everybody to stay for that. I don't expect everybody at the same interest in it, but I'm gonna do the Q&A after the credits roll. So why would you not?

Speaker 3:

I mean like well.

Speaker 2:

I mean people. People are there for different reasons, right, different strokes for different folks.

Speaker 3:

I get it, but like I'm just like, tell me more.

Speaker 1:

I'm expecting people to walk out before the credits roll. Absolutely, I'm banking on people to get up and walk out that confuses me.

Speaker 2:

Why do you feel that way?

Speaker 1:

because I want it to happen.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, what happened?

Speaker 1:

You want, you want, I want to offend people to the point where like oh, so what you're saying is you you are perfectly okay with seeing people get up and say this is too much for me, I'm leaving.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna laugh my ass. I love it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 3:

You're talking to a shock Jockey. Come on, this is literally why my wife isn't coming with me, nice. She's like I don't think I can do this right. She's actually done. She's like hey, are people gonna jump out because I, once again, I've talked too much about Rocky horror? She's like Is it gonna be like an interactive audience and stuff? And I literally message that night. I'm like anything interactive like.

Speaker 1:

I'm just hoping this out, you be blood pouring on it.

Speaker 3:

She's like Still don't think it's my vibe, nope, I ain't doing it. I was like I understand that I'm into it. I said I gotta go though.

Speaker 1:

There's people who don't know what they're getting into, who are just coming to support me, and I I appreciate that greatly. Not to mention I'm gonna throw this out there because we got on a tangent after I said the things about local. I gotta thank the people from tiktok who are going to be literally driving Six to eight. Yeah for real, real. Oh god, that's awesome. Yes, they are gonna get a special mention. I'm gonna shout them out.

Speaker 3:

What's the furthest that we got somebody travel, I believe.

Speaker 1:

Eight, eight and a half hours is the furthest.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome.

Speaker 1:

How far is? I think Indianapolis might be.

Speaker 3:

It's about yeah, I got six to eight hours yeah yeah yeah so that's that, I think, is the furthest one.

Speaker 1:

But I look forward to them and usually don't get me wrong. I'm a little Precautious about people you meet on the internet. People are fucking nuts, it says the guy where y'all that's like what the?

Speaker 2:

yeah, people are fucking nuts.

Speaker 3:

We're we let this person into our studio.

Speaker 2:

My house.

Speaker 3:

Around your children.

Speaker 1:

But either way, though. So so I'm thinking about opening up, because the the VIP tickets sold out Literally within like two and a half weeks. Yeah and I was like, oh shit, I was, I was not expecting that, and that just blew me for, like, just blew me away.

Speaker 2:

No, which is awesome.

Speaker 1:

We're so um nice. What Wasn't expecting, but um. You know, so I've had people message me and there's interest in getting the general admission tickets, but those are just donation base, so I gotta figure out how to do those. I gotta make a separate list and I'm thinking about opening up those ticket sales tomorrow because I think I got it all kind of Worked out tomorrow's Monday, right Monday tomorrow Okay. Yeah, which is what the fuck is the date? August 28, 28, right Monday, august 28. Yeah, so tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

Monroe's birthday.

Speaker 1:

Hey Monroe's fucking birthday.

Speaker 3:

Let's get this man a fucking ticket for his birthday, yeah so those tickets?

Speaker 1:

because I don't really Need the money at this point to run the event, like all the VIPs to ride that. So at this point general admission is a donation based kind of thing. So all the money from General admission goes back into psycho silico. Every bit of it goes back into helping me get the beautiful.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome, that's. I mean, that's the best way to do that shit right.

Speaker 1:

I mean, yeah, that sounds perfect, cause like, if you, if you think too much about the money and you're doing it for the money, you're never going.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the only thing we have. We have patrons right and shout out patron and and all of our.

Speaker 3:

Patrons make a bunch of these guys. I got stand. You bring it up to you dad, like here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and, and we have just enough that it pays for our publishing. You know, so we run, we run just on that. Anything else is out of pocket. But you know that covers our publishing, which is great that told me to fuck off oh.

Speaker 3:

I can see that. Yeah, I could really see that when I first.

Speaker 1:

When I first started doing this, I tried to make a patreon from our really really, really violent works.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right, okay, and you really don't. We fans for that fucking up this you were so loud.

Speaker 3:

I'm so I'm gonna shut the fuck up till you fix your fuck Fuck you, we can hear you fine. So I got stretches old man leg out here.

Speaker 1:

See, are you. Are you gonna be able to be a camera operator?

Speaker 3:

Thank you, I think.

Speaker 1:

I think I'll suffer through it, suffer through it but, patreon, when I first, when I first started doing this, they were like yeah, no, we need your IP address, we need this, we need this fuck and I was like no, no, go fuck yourself.

Speaker 1:

And I just didn't do patreon. But now that I have like more of a following and everything, because this was right, right when I first started, so everything was just a new account. And Now I'm gonna go back in, try again, see if they asked for the same shit. They asked for the same shit. I'm gonna tell them to eat shit and move on and go somewhere else. Only fans.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I know it's only, I know it's. No, I know it's, I know it's made for, I know what it's made Like, I know what it like people use it for, but I'm pretty sure it was created originally for gore.

Speaker 1:

Won't, let me do, can't have gore.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you can't go on the same with the hub.

Speaker 1:

Same with the hub. You can't have gore, it's.

Speaker 3:

Really, I'm learning shit right now.

Speaker 2:

I guess that makes sense. I can't find it.

Speaker 3:

I mean, everything makes a lot more sense. Well, I mean, you gotta think they're probably, if you allow that, there. You're probably tapping to a crowd that they don't want to be responsible for, I guess, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I.

Speaker 3:

Don't know well, okay so there's a place for it somewhere on the dark way.

Speaker 2:

So let's do this before we forget. Yes, um, if you're gonna open general admission tickets tomorrow, where can they? Where can you get general admission tickets and donate?

Speaker 1:

Directly through me.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's the only way to do it and and how to get in contact with you.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so Fuck, all right, we got 11 people. I believe all of you all are your, your kosher, I assume your kosher. So, tyler pain, dot 3d at gmailcom. That is what you need to email and just say, hey, tickets, movie tickets, awesome. Put that in the subject bar. I know what it is. Okay, talk about it from there. But then there's also cash at paypal, facebook, pay, facebook in general. And then if you see me walking around the street, spot me $5 and I'll be like, hey, but you know this, yeah, and that's and that's, and that's what's great about it.

Speaker 2:

That feels, that feels awesome. You know, donate what, what you can for, you know, for the gym, for the tickets, to help support the, and it seems like your following is people who are passionate about it and love it. So you know, so that's, it's gonna be people.

Speaker 3:

They found up that fucked up thumb fish Like on that one. Like it has like 97 million views, right, right. How did you balloon like big time and followers when that video clipped and just went? Yep, completely viral.

Speaker 1:

I'm actually that you did, actually I got banned like five times when that first hit like really got in trouble where I couldn't post for a little bit, because some of my more Violent pieces got discovered.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

That went under the radar because I'm shadow banned when I post and I actually love a shadow band because I don't bitch about it anymore, because I can put some real fucked up shit up there without anyone noticing, and I got a new asmr that I'm gonna shoot this week, so I'm out of the shadows for now.

Speaker 2:

I'd like to do it. I'd like to get you back for a full bonus episode and just do ASMR for Like 30 minutes, just ASMR stuff.

Speaker 3:

I've never. I was never into ASMR like it, like you're kind of looting to earlier. It's just for some people it's just not a vibe. But like when my dad passed and stuff and I wasn't sleeping good at night was have all the anxiety meds, everything. I was like I gotta find something. And I found this dude that literally just takes a mic and takes like Like fucking brushes and brushes all over and just makes static.

Speaker 3:

That's peaceful and, like I found myself passing out within like six minutes, just run those videos. But here's the problem my wife hates it, so I'd fall asleep, but that's still running, so she's like slapping around the bed trying to find where the fucking noise is coming from. So it became a problem.

Speaker 1:

I actually started doing more long-cut videos specifically for people to sleep at night. So, nice, I did one last year. What do you get asleep to you? 30 minutes long, and I make sure to not talk too, too much and I'm like at the beginning Although a little bit of context, and then from there it's just Cutting away.

Speaker 2:

I like it.

Speaker 3:

That's. I love the cooking videos. Oh, oh fuck. Cooking with Carol.

Speaker 2:

Carol's not a chef.

Speaker 1:

Carol's a surgeon. It was only for the 25 K, thank you.

Speaker 2:

This is your favorite, though. Look at the cooking one, the beans one.

Speaker 1:

I didn't watch that one, so I got a fun little thing about the beans on. That bitch is still in my freezer frozen and With the beans in it, with the beans in her. That's kind of gross. Well, she's frozen, deep frozen. When I say frozen, she's fucking frozen. We're gonna get her out soon. Carol is gonna do a follow-up episode on cooking with Carol and we're gonna do, we're gonna, we're gonna put that bitch in a Pan and we're gonna refry her. So here's the thing that's.

Speaker 3:

We literally had a conversation in Mike what's helping you out of your car? I hope you get stuff set up and open up the door. And I see Tire and everything. I'm like. I can only imagine if you were to ever get pulled over what kind of questions would be asked.

Speaker 1:

They're gonna get to see my tiktok right then and there.

Speaker 2:

Have to like how?

Speaker 3:

like you would have to explain that. But like, listen, I know this is real fucked up, looking Like there's there's a couple heads in the trunk. I'm just throwing that out there letting you know Like there's some weird shit floating around this car.

Speaker 1:

There are a couple of heads in my trunk and I was shown one One. I dig it, it's mouth was duct tape closed, although its mouth doesn't open.

Speaker 3:

So I hope like at some point, like you said, you wouldn't build your own place if you ever move out. That you just leave some of these heads laying around so that when whoever moves in, they're like what the actual hell happened here, like what is going on.

Speaker 1:

So my driveway. I plan to have heads piked all the way up until you get to my house and I plan to live in a very Hidden area. So if you stumble upon my house and happen to bypass the gate and happen to not Leave the notice, that will Well say you're trespassing and give me free realm of the wrong house to break into.

Speaker 1:

Oh it is, we'll make a show out of it, yeah, anyways. So when, as you're driving up that road, you know how people have those nice little pretty lights that lead you all the way, I'm gonna have those pretty lights, but they all gonna be a bitch's head.

Speaker 2:

You. I just feel like this is the house you break into and just stand in there, uh, like if I broke into your house right now and you and you looked like that, I would just ask you to kill me, I think.

Speaker 1:

I would be like, can we put it on camera first?

Speaker 2:

You need to write a thing.

Speaker 3:

I just, I, just, I just want to show you a movie.

Speaker 1:

I just want to watch some movies with you. Just want to watch this movie.

Speaker 3:

Take some pictures. You know, I do feel like.

Speaker 2:

I do feel like I could get tied up.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I'd actually want to do that to you though you should, I don't. I don't think you'd break into my house, I think you you'd be like, hey, let's hang out.

Speaker 2:

It'd be there. It'd be there to record an episode.

Speaker 1:

There you go, See, see see. You're using a break-in. I'd let you in.

Speaker 2:

We're about the same thing. We're about making content Exactly, and we're all about the same thing Everything works out great, so maybe I will break in.

Speaker 1:

Hey, I don't think so.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, this is a fucking blast.

Speaker 3:

I've had fun, man, I don't want to say the show's not over.

Speaker 2:

I got, I got no. I got no control over that. I feel like. I feel like we're being held hostage now.

Speaker 3:

I feel like. I feel like we're being held hostage now. I feel like.

Speaker 2:

I feel like we're being held hostage now. Anyway, I feel like that's been the play the whole time. So one more time, let's plug where you're where, where it's going to be.

Speaker 1:

All right. So Norton, virginia, at the 93 five building, on September 29th I'm going to show my feature length film, the first ever film I've ever made, that's feature length, completely produced by me. So that means no one could tell me no on the things I wanted to do. And when someone made a suggestion on to cut things, I said, fuck off, I don't think so. This is mine. Did you fucking pay for it? I don't fucking think so. I did so. Therefore, I have no cuts. Everything that's in there that I got to shoot is in there, that I want to be in there, so anyway. So that is going to be September 29th at the 93 five building in Norton, virginia.

Speaker 2:

So and general admission is going to try to go on sale tomorrow, Monday, the 28th.

Speaker 1:

Monday, the 28th.

Speaker 2:

Monday.

Speaker 1:

Wednesday. It was going to be at the door it was going to be at the door, but not anymore because everybody's asking me about it. So I'm like, okay, I'll open up for pre-orders on this.

Speaker 2:

And it seems like you won't have any at the door is what it seems like.

Speaker 1:

Wouldn't that be surreal, that would be beautiful, it seems like it.

Speaker 2:

I mean, to me it seems like a month out from the show.

Speaker 3:

I want to see a packed house.

Speaker 2:

It seems like you're not going to have tickets at the door.

Speaker 1:

Standing room only. I'll give my seat away to make sure that someone gets to watch this. I will sit in the crows.

Speaker 2:

But to guarantee it, I would try to.

Speaker 3:

You will shut up that shit. Yeah, sit there and just.

Speaker 2:

I'm fucking, I'm excited, I'm excited for all of it.

Speaker 3:

Now, I know you're live right now and you know for your followers and things like that. But for anyone that comes across our media and picks it up, throw where we can find you at on the socials and things like that.

Speaker 1:

So the best way to find me is on tiktok, instagram and YouTube. Youtube, I do my own podcast on now, which is the Psycho Silicone Subliminal Show, which is bi-weekly, that's definitely checked it out.

Speaker 3:

I've not caught. You've done two episodes on there now, right.

Speaker 2:

Twice a week or every other week.

Speaker 3:

Every other week I've caught the first one. I've not seen the second one yet, so that's something I'm going to check out tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was the first one. You sent me, the first one. I was phenomenal, I loved it.

Speaker 1:

The next one, I believe Carol has an interview for the filmmaker.

Speaker 2:

Do you think we can get Carol here one day?

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. I would love to have Carol here for a follow-up, just kind of rehashing them how everything went after the.

Speaker 2:

I'd love to do that.

Speaker 1:

After the actual show. So Carol's not contained. Like I am Carol's a little bit.

Speaker 3:

I'm 100% okay with that.

Speaker 1:

All right, y'all asked for it, gabby, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

We'll ask my family not to be here. They can suck.

Speaker 3:

She will run for the hills and for us, like I don't know if anyone can hear us on that live. All of our tags are directly at Unpaid Lunch, directly through Instagram, tiktok. We're trying to get some cuts of some of our shows and things like that out. There Big place that you can find us is on all of your podcast streaming platforms, specifically Spotify, apple, google podcast, anything where you get your main podcast viewing from. I've had a lot of fun with this and I'm gonna say that again. I know you're not done with me yet. Can you do me one more favor? Can you break out the twisty straw one more time?

Speaker 1:

One second before I do that, so I never gave my handle out, so it's at PsychoZoto.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I don't know how we missed that. So, S-Y-C-O-P-S-I-L-I-C-O.

Speaker 1:

Now, if you can figure out what the spelling is from you get extra credit. I honestly don't know I don't know I wouldn't expect you to know.

Speaker 2:

We'll make sure people comment and if anybody knows beforehand maybe leave the comments. They can comment everywhere. Send us a message on Instagram too.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. In closing, the last thing that I even want to say what can we expect next I know you've rapped on this first one Any visions on what happens next from the theatrical space you looking at potentially building another screenplay? Have you thought about that yet? Or are we still just kind of waiting to see how this one's delivered? You should see my fucking pitch deck.

Speaker 1:

I love it, so I've already decided. I've not announced it super publicly yet, but I'm gonna go ahead and announce it. I'm gonna begin writing the sequel to Silicone Solutions like January. Like it's already been in my head. It's already been playing over.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're already writing it right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's already in there, but I'm gonna start putting pen to paper. I have the key detail scenes that I want, and the main thing is I just need the budget. So I'm hoping I'm not gonna hope because I'm gonna. I'm gonna be on. I'm gonna be on this fucking show. So you guys know who Joe Bob Briggs is. Yes, so he's doing the drive-in Jamboree, right? So I reached out to him and I was like hey, I would love for you all to just like watch my movie. You don't got to say anything about it on air, I just want you all to watch it and tell me what you think. And they were like instead of that, how about you submit it to the drive-in Jamboree? Oh, dude, fucking awesome. Yeah, I was like are you fucking kidding?

Speaker 2:

me Cheers, so here's the link and guess what.

Speaker 1:

It was fucking free to submit. But here's the thing I couldn't find it when I just looked it up and I wasn't logged in. I couldn't find it anywhere, so I don't know if it's an invite only thing or what it was.

Speaker 2:

Seems that way.

Speaker 1:

I had to follow that link to get there and I put my feature length film in. Now, here's the catch Only two feature length films are gonna be selected, and that's it. So I'm going to fucking Vegas, because that's where this is at. That'd be awesome. We're manifesting that I'm gonna fucking Vegas I'm here for it it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2:

Don't forget this one here at the top.

Speaker 1:

Forget you, how could?

Speaker 2:

I, it's true.

Speaker 1:

I don't forget fucking anything.

Speaker 2:

So the people who are good to me.

Speaker 1:

I keep you close by the people who are shit to me. I fucking remember you too. So yeah, they're all inspirations, every single one of them. Good and bad, you can't have one without the other.

Speaker 3:

I mean it's all ties in together.

Speaker 1:

And it makes good stories. Oh shit, some of the worst fucking experiences and the worst fucking people make some of the best fucking stories.

Speaker 2:

Oh, for sure God. Yeah, that's generally well. It's kind of what the show's about.

Speaker 1:

It's about shit shows, About that shit boss at Kmart, that fucking cunt Monica. What about her?

Speaker 2:

Look at me now, monica, look at me now I know, what you did to your kids. You worked with one of our close friends at Kmart actually. Yeah, we were a really close friend and a listener, talked to him every day, larry.

Speaker 1:

Oh, larry, yeah, no wait, larry Ozler, larry was with us at GameStop.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, love, larry, yeah, larry, larry was with us at GameStop.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Larry's one of my best friends in the world. Send him our guards, tell him I miss him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's, hopefully he'll listen. He was excited about. He was like he was like Tyler's gonna be, tyler's gonna be fucking lit on the show.

Speaker 1:

Larry was great, larry's he showed me the coolest place to chill in the loft when we had to when we had to do our cards.

Speaker 1:

So we had to meet a quota on that shit, cause, yeah, what else? What else? What else? Oh, oh oh. There was a guy who trained me specifically. So you know the meme like oh, wait until this guy, I trained this guy, right. So there's this one guy who trained me and I'm not gonna drop his name, just in case he probably wouldn't mind it if I did. But I'm not going to.

Speaker 2:

But he trained me on how to hate Monica, that's right, like I fucking hate your guts, you putrid bitch Fucking cunt.

Speaker 1:

And if you ain't listening to this, I want you to fucking know that someone's gonna bring this shit to you. I'm glad that you live the life, that you live the sorrow, the sadness at that fucking gas station, you worthless sack of shit.

Speaker 2:

You fucking had it all, cunt. You had it all and you lost it. Do we know for sure she's alive? I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I hope so. Oh my god, you would think I would have named him Monica instead of Deborah.

Speaker 1:

But Deborah's literally printed on the bitches. Speaking of Deborah's, there was a Deborah from the university I graduated from. Total fucking cunt. Let me tell you about fucking Deborah. Alright, so I wanted to be a game designer. So fucking bad, I wasn't gonna let anyone get my fucking way, not even a goddamn Deborah. So I go, I go to this place.

Speaker 1:

I go to this place. I graduated, I have an associates degree oh, look at my big dick swinging. So I go up there and I'm like I'm ready to enroll into your game design program. I get in state tuition. I'm gonna drive every fucking day to be here. I'm a motivated motherfucker. I'm here for this fucking meeting. She didn't even look at my transcripts and she's the only advisor for the game design department. Instead, instead, this pudgy ol' bitch sat and watched Netflix and Hulu, and I think she had fucking HBO as well on a tap. Why do you need three fucking streaming services active when you're at fucking work? Deborah? Tell me that.

Speaker 2:

So not only did?

Speaker 1:

I drive back home in a fucking snowstorm. But I wrote a three page paper to the dean of that department saying fuck this bitch, strip her of her titles and throw her to the fucking streets. They didn't and I had to deal with this bitch still, but I didn't have a problem with her later on you know, why?

Speaker 1:

Because I got to work through the deem directly of that department and no, I actually think it's ironic that that bitch's name was Deborah and it goes along with the Debra's that I chop up the mannequin heads. It's ironic, is it ironic? It truly is. It really fucking is there's business?

Speaker 2:

to release.

Speaker 1:

But it adds a little bit of extra pleasure. It really does.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm sure.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I fucking hate that cunt.

Speaker 2:

Listen, that was worth all of it to me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it was perfect. I had to give you a little bit of the outburst, and a little bit of the SycoPsilico in there. You know Listen. You're the shitty people very well, very well.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm glad we're on your good side then.

Speaker 1:

Excellent, you should.

Speaker 3:

You all heard that while ago he said I was a good boss. He is.

Speaker 1:

You are one of the excellent bosses.

Speaker 2:

Excellent. We all know you're a great boss.

Speaker 1:

However, your predecessor, on the other hand, pills in comparison Ran that place into the ground. He did, but we won't go over that too much. I've said my piece.

Speaker 2:

What do you have? Anything else you need to say? I don't even know how you close after this.

Speaker 1:

How do we close after this? I'll tell you how we close after this. It's been a wonderful evening, everyone, and thank you all for joining me as I talk shit and take control over this podcast, which is called.

Speaker 2:

Unpaid Lunch.

Speaker 3:

I'm so terrified of the whole thing.

Speaker 2:

You got anything else? No, god, that was fucking awesome.

Speaker 3:

This has been the night of my life. Thank you everyone for coming in and checking this out. Listen, as soon as you see this film, there's no doubt in my mind it's going to get a wide reach at some point. Definitely get your hands on it. Soak it up Everybody's pumped. It's been an honor having you here. Thank you for showing up. Oh, thank you all for having me, joe Bob. Briggs.

Speaker 1:

I'm looking forward to seeing you.

Speaker 2:

I remember that nobody stopped you from quitting your job.

Speaker 1:

But you quit that motherfucker now Quit, they don't care about you.