Unpaid Lunch : A Podcast About Work
Everyone hates work, but almost all of us have to do it. Join Heavy D with a new guest each week, asking the dumbest questions about their job we can come up with.
Basically just people talking about how much they don't want to work. That's all.
We try to stay under your lunch time so you have time to cry before clocking back in. usually a guest stops by to tell us a story about their crappy job.
Remember that nobody is stopping you from quitting your job, But you.
Unpaid Lunch : A Podcast About Work
The 3-Day Weekend And The Corporate Kiss-Ass
What if you could shake up your work-life balance with a four-day work week? Join us as we weigh the merits of a three-day weekend, the balance of introversion and extroversion in the workplace, and the power of effective networking. We kick off with an engaging discussion about managing burnout, coping strategies, and the intriguing idea of a podcast sponsored by liquor, with our guest, the legendary Andy P.
Known for his impeccable track record of sick days, Andy P sheds light on his potential plans to start his own podcast. Then we shift gears, turning the spotlight on one of our favorite pastimes - movies. Get ready for a detour into the world of slasher flicks, underrated classics, and psychological thrillers. Filmmaker Tyler Payne, an ardent horror film enthusiast, shares his insights on our favorite films and gives us a glimpse into his creepy ASMR-infused TikTok page, 'Psycho Silico'.
Finally, ever wondered about the art of navigating friendships and work responsibilities? We traverse the tricky terrain of workplace networking, discussing its importance and the role it plays in shaping our careers. Hear from us as we share our thoughts on the generational gap, the merits of quitting your job, and the significance of extroversion in the workplace. Whether you're contemplating a job change, struggling with networking, or just looking for some movie recommendations, this episode has something for everyone! Tune in and let's redefine the way we work and play.
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On your break. Today, me and Rhino are in studio talking about the best three-day weekend having off Friday or having off Monday and we get into what's better being an introvert or an extrovert at work. Alright time to clock out for lunch. Welcome and uppaid lunch and thanks for spending your break with us. I'm Heavy D. With me, as always, is Rhino. Andy P out again today. It seems the god of all sick days. You know, what's funny is he just works too fucking much.
Speaker 2:I know that's what's kind of really undermining our whole entire purpose here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it seems like you get on brand Andy P. I mean it's okay, he'll quit eventually. Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2:Maybe he's quitting us. Oh, maybe he has just went next level and quit this job.
Speaker 1:He's gonna start his own podcast. Yeah, the Michael Scott podcast. Paid lunch, paid lunch, oh shit.
Speaker 2:You got me kind of worried about it. Now 15 minute break.
Speaker 1:You got me kind of worried they might fucking do that. Is this still the intro? Yeah, yeah I reckon.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I get lost in it. I don't know I got a little bit too much, jim Beam. Apple, it's hard to tell at this point. That's good that you're telling everybody App placement Jim Beam.
Speaker 1:Shout out Jim Beam Apple. It's a good sponsor. No fan of these two If our podcast about work is sponsored by liquor.
Speaker 2:I mean calm people. I've seen plenty of people shut up my job with a 32 and I was freaking double quick cup. Now I know what's fucking in there. You know how many people drink.
Speaker 1:It's like all you motherfuckers drink Dr Pepper. All you motherfuckers drink fountain, drink Dr Peppers. No, you don't.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:How do you get through the day?
Speaker 2:Whatever lets you get through the day, I mean I had a guy on my team at a different job I had prior to the one I met. No, don't come at me and fire me. I'm not talking about where I'm working at now, but I had a guy come in all the time with a bottle of ginger ale that did not look like ginger ale.
Speaker 1:I straight up. We straight up had a guy that I worked with that got just he just straight gotten trouble for drinking. He just drank all the fucking time and he was not even like hidden about it. He smelled like liquor. He went to his car and drank on break.
Speaker 2:I mean people go you know whatever you got to do to cope and get through the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean everybody else is on some sort of peel form of a medication that's working, maybe not all the I'm on a lot of medication right now. Well, that's okay. You know you got to, but you're feeling better.
Speaker 2:See that, See around on any medication for my leg right now Once really weird, as I've hurt all day long. Maybe it's just the bourbon.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, you're walking Maybe.
Speaker 2:I just need to start drinking more.
Speaker 1:I think that's if you ask my father. That would be his, that would be his solution.
Speaker 2:I don't really want Ozzy Osbourne's opinion. It's true Case of periods.
Speaker 1:It sounds like Ozzy Osbourne. I mean arguing at the gas station with other old men who don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he sounds like him a lot Quite frequently.
Speaker 1:I got to have some work related news. He hit me with it. I have an interview this week at work for a position change like for a different department.
Speaker 2:But you're not quitting Fuck you. So you're actually rising up the corporate ladder? No, that's what I heard.
Speaker 1:It's a whole different department. It's literally, it's literally, just like it's, it's IT.
Speaker 2:And I get blamed for being the corporate kiss ass all the time.
Speaker 1:Oh, what you don't know is that I already boxed up all my stuff. If I don't get this job, I'm going to quit.
Speaker 2:Part of it's already in your car.
Speaker 1:It's half of it. I'm halfway out the door, man. I mean, I don't blame you, I really did get tired of looking at my shit at work. Is that a weird thing to do? Right, so I do this thing. It worked. So it's from the PTSD I have from working at the call center. Is we moved desk so much that I just didn't put shit on my desk because I was sick of moving shit when I moved desk so much. We moved desk all the time, I don't just you're the only department.
Speaker 2:Change your teams or.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about not, it Not it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I never moved.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you fucking, you all, just get to sit there.
Speaker 2:I never moved. Wait until now. Now they put me in a chokie. Oh, you fucking like none of my people's returned back to site yet. So they're like we need roles for coaches and agents. They're like all right, where do we freed up? And they look at me and I have a completely pristine, wide open row. It's just me. So I'm like, all right, I know the cap casualty here. Like what do you want me to do? They're like well, there's the high rise tables. I'm like they don't have a back on the chair and I have nerve Freaking issues. Oh, you're sitting at one of those. Oh, fuck, no, I was like I ain't doing that.
Speaker 1:I know where every one of them were quality. I'm on there.
Speaker 2:Nope. So in the back corner of the main production floor, those little offices that were always catchalls. Yeah, yeah, I got to clean one of them out. No, I'm in one of those side.
Speaker 1:That's fine Bitch, I'm just getting off.
Speaker 2:I hate it, I don't. I don't like being away from everybody, because the day just drags. Yeah, that's true. But also, at the same time, right outside my door, they placed this little odor gentleman who screams at the top of his lungs. My kind of dude screams the whole entire phone interaction. So I've started shutting my door and that door is automatically walk.
Speaker 1:Give me feedback when you walk by him.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, he sounds great on the phone, he's just loud, he just screams the whole time. I don't know what that's like so shout out, krita, my boss will literally come by. She's like why is your door shut again? I'm like listen, I can't hear anything.
Speaker 1:Listen.
Speaker 2:Plus. One day I was in my office eating like a large pizza by myself and I just felt like I had three different people make eye contact with me.
Speaker 1:I'm like God, look at this fat ass and I'm like dude's got a whole pizza.
Speaker 2:She's like people would have looked at you the same way out on the road, tell people to meet him, but now I don't have people behind me and at least before I could say, oh, they're looking at somebody behind me. Nope, now I know they're staring at me inside this office.
Speaker 1:This is a complex it is.
Speaker 2:But you know what's awesome I can take my shoes off in there.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, it's pretty phenomenal.
Speaker 2:I was just going there to take my shoes off.
Speaker 1:That's why you get the door closed. It's probably Well.
Speaker 2:I don't even care.
Speaker 1:That's fine. That was my. That was. I cleaned off my desk because I was sick of looking at my stuff and I like I like I put one thing on it and I'd be like I don't want to look at that anymore. And so I eventually just took everything off my desk and put it under there and everybody was like, are you quitting? Oh, my God, dusty's quitting. I was not just not looking like I don't want to look at my shit anymore.
Speaker 2:I get fat. My boss also my boss's boss walked in my office the other day and he just kept looking at my board. I got to have like one of those big whiteboards. They kept looking at it like trying to decipher what's on it. So this is also back to LaCrestia again. I mean I was talking about one day. She's like let's make a podcast about vampires. I was like we could totally do that.
Speaker 2:She's like there's just not enough source material for that. It's like fucking. 20 minutes later there is a gigantic fucking whiteboard of everything that we could create for a vampire pocket.
Speaker 1:Well, I think there's. I think I think there's vampire podcasts, like I think there's like a big following.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'm literally like a total. I went to YouTube and you're such a low key horror fan.
Speaker 1:I like nothing about you. Nothing about you says that you love horror, except for because I've known you so long. I knew you in a life where you were so into film that you just wanted to be a director. Oh yeah, like that's, that's what I knew about.
Speaker 2:It's my dream job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we're going to do dream jobs. I think we're going to do dream jobs again next week. We did early on in the podcast, we did dream jobs and I'm not sure we got much into it because Slick Nick was the guest.
Speaker 2:And we just talked about.
Speaker 1:Disney. Yeah, we just talked about Disney, so weird retreats to Montana. Yeah, we'll get him on again and just talk about bullshit. That's my favorite thing.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like I'm, I used to be a mate. I'm massive film snob, but not so snobby to the point that me and Jody were able to get along. Jody, I love you, but Cis and Kane still sucks.
Speaker 1:Okay. Like he still like you're an elite film fan, but you're not an elite film fan. I'm like the web brothers.
Speaker 2:No, listen me and Danny kind of vibe a little bit more. I love Jody.
Speaker 1:Jody does love Cis and Kane he demands.
Speaker 2:All about some Cis and.
Speaker 1:Kane and he's like.
Speaker 2:For like 10 years now he's been judging me harshly on how bad I hate Cis and Kane.
Speaker 1:Can I be honest? Yeah, I watched Cis and Kane recently for the first time because, like I was just like it doesn't seem like a movie that I'm going to be.
Speaker 2:Did you love it?
Speaker 1:Man, it's so fucking long I feel like I don't know what's like. I understand the movie. I know it's like you. Probably. They say, if you, if you didn't love it, then you don't understand it. But like I get it, like I get them, I get it. But like Jesus man, they're in the hall in that move, in that house For ever. Dude, they're free in there forever.
Speaker 2:But the experience that I had with it was just bad to begin with because it was in film class.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to make popcorn, burn it and it was like.
Speaker 1:So the whole room smells you're ever relating that to it, yeah.
Speaker 2:So now, like I have like some kind of like brain tumor of a memory of Citizen Kane, so whenever I hear someone talk about us start smelling things, I Can't eat pizza rolls because I worked so long at the gas station. She's still listening to this.
Speaker 1:I don't, you know, we're gonna find out because he used to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. I'm not gonna say a word to him about it, I'm just gonna see if he makes it again like fuck you man. This and Kane's great.
Speaker 1:Well, he'll tell me first. I work with him every day.
Speaker 2:I hate it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hate that fucking movie.
Speaker 2:He is gonna send the message out your favorite movie of all time my favorite movie of all time. I won't put you on spot. You need to me to.
Speaker 1:Shawshank Redemption. I knew that a few good men. Okay, I Love, I've watched, I fuck with that. I will say I love a few good men as many times as I can favorite horror flick favorite horror flick streamers count no Maybe. So first saw was shock value for me.
Speaker 2:Like when I worked at the video store. If you remember, it didn't have a big theatrical position. Yeah, it didn't know it didn't, so nobody knew anything about it before.
Speaker 1:They're much more popular than the original.
Speaker 2:I remember going and catching the second one, I think the regal on Lexington, but the first one almost pretty much felt like a straight to DVD type scenario.
Speaker 1:It wasn't, but it felt like it was not many people wouldn't watch that we didn't see it in theaters.
Speaker 2:So when people would come in the video store which I mean wasn't that big of a deal because it didn't make a whole lot of money I was like I bet my whole paycheck you cannot peg who the killer is in this movie. Oh never and they're not got bad bitch. I'm like you gotta tell me the truth when you come back. Yeah, they come back like dude. Your paycheck safe. Nobody saw.
Speaker 1:I don't even think. Halfway through the movie I didn't realize that that was a. What's his name from Princess Bride? Oh, carrie Eales. Carrie Eales, yeah, I didn't realize it was Carrie Eales the whole time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's solid.
Speaker 1:That's probably my favorite. Like I love that. I Like like OG slasher films. I love original slasher films. Like I could watch the original two or three Friday 13th so.
Speaker 2:I'm a huge Scream fan. Yeah, I know that screams up there for me, but also equal right there with. It is the thing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's my brother's favorite.
Speaker 2:So those two are probably my two favorite but not my favorite movie movies. And if I had picked two and they're kind of both fallen the same, under the same genre as the godfather and the departed, the departeds, like I feel, like this this is part of last week's episode. We actually ain't talked about this at all.
Speaker 1:I know it feels like it does feel like it feels like I know, I know, so it's funny that I actually know that about you. Like the departed for you is like man.
Speaker 2:Back when you could code my space. Departed I had a departed my space thing. Epic was playing shipping up to Boston by the dropkick Marry fees like the whole nine. It was phenomenal.
Speaker 1:I'd love to have an unpaid lunch. My space page, oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I actually tried to log into my space today.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's a website, is it you get?
Speaker 2:it's live, it's music now, oh. Yeah, it's a very like third-rate music website now.
Speaker 1:That's kind of interesting. If they did that, I guess you adapt or die right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I kind of miss Tom.
Speaker 1:Is that what his name?
Speaker 2:was that was automatically on your top or your friends? Yeah, he was my goat, oh, I don't know. Speaking of movies, before we transition any type of topic, uh, what am I really good friends from a long time back. I'm gonna spend a whole lot of time with him anymore, but he used to make a lot of Short films and stuff like that and he actually kind of his name is Tyler Payne. He actually worked with the, with us at GameStop for a little bit.
Speaker 2:He actually worked a little bit after I left GameStop he came into the foe, but he used to be one my Well, my frequent offenders, I would say that came into the store. He always had a mohawk, almost like Liberty Spikes.
Speaker 2:Yeah it was epic, usually like yeah, I think I do know him he would come in all the time, huge Metal Gear fan back in the day. So I mean him was able to really kind of, you know, sit on the same plane with that. But I'm super envious of him because, like you said, I used to be like I Wanted to go to like full sale and all this stuff and try to go and become a director or producer or whatnot. This dude did it.
Speaker 2:Oh shit Like he went and got like a degree. If I'm not mistaken, he's working, if he still is. It was working for Epic Games there for a while oh, it's awesome.
Speaker 1:Oh, I remember that. Yeah, I remember you tell me that before so he actually went out and made living the dream dream job shit.
Speaker 2:Dude, I'm so excited for this. He went made his own horror slasher flick. Yeah, really psyched a lick. He's got his own tiktok page. Anybody that's listening? Psycho silico is the name on tiktok and it's kind of stilling. You know kind of the way they sit it on another podcast where I watch that you know A brief review is movie, but it's really the best way to kind of put it. He's got some weird-ass like ASMR vibes. Oh, he's got his own characters and stuff these build out the whole entire thing is just phenomenal. It's really creepy. I mean my wife was gonna go watch it and she's like I don't think I can do this.
Speaker 1:Because it's too intense, like real she's, like I'm afraid that I'm you need to take Mikey Burke I.
Speaker 2:Bet you Mikey's probably on that list. My keys probably there yeah so he actually done like this, Like a $30 package. He's gonna do a showing in downtown Norton and that little tiny theater.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's like 30 bucks you got a shirt, you got VIP tickets for the show he's gonna do this weekend. It's September 29th is when he's doing it. Gonna do the show Gonna do an intro and everything into the show. Show the movie VIP tickets 30 bucks the way it's.
Speaker 1:It's gonna get him on the podcast.
Speaker 2:I would love to get him on here. I'll have a check with him at some point, yeah.
Speaker 1:We can talk about that. I would love to get some people to go.
Speaker 2:I'm definitely. I already got my VIP ticket. He's sold out now those look thing, but he's still got, I think, another 60 seats that he's doing admission for but not charging. You can basically donate whatever you want.
Speaker 1:Oh sure.
Speaker 2:So a merch and stuff like that he's gonna do an intro. We, into it, throw back to one of our previous episodes. There's gonna be some elevated chicken there, oh shit. Yeah there's gonna be some elevated chicken. I might actually get to eat some this elevated chicken this time. I'm kind of hoping, you know order.
Speaker 1:Just order before you go.
Speaker 2:I. It's part of the package, oh shit. So for that VIP package you get some elevated chicken, you get the feature length film and then afterwards he's doing a Q&A in character.
Speaker 1:Oh Cool, that's awesome. A Q&A in characters in character.
Speaker 2:So I'm pretty pumped about the whole entire thing. So I just wanted to throw it out there, since we were on a quick film kick. Yeah, I don't wish we.
Speaker 1:I wish we'd get him on promote the show and Get some people, you know. I mean I know he's sold out now, but bring attention to it anyway.
Speaker 2:Listen, he hit a couple I think that's very cool and film festival, and they gave him best score.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm sure, if it was great and he'd do another showing. I mean, you know so.
Speaker 2:I, he's a he's from when. I gather he's gonna hit the festival scene as many as he can.
Speaker 1:That'd be awesome.
Speaker 2:But he gave like a 10 minute, Like a quick cut of the movie, to a horror podcast and they basically said it gave him OG terrifying.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Yeah, be killer about it.
Speaker 2:I'm pumped.
Speaker 1:That's one that just took off to write the terrifier.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she has took off. We seem to either one of them.
Speaker 1:I watched the first one accidentally with my dad and my niece Because she was like. She was like I want to watch this horror movie and he's like whenever watch it, and I was sitting on the couch like Like he like strings that girl up, upside down or whatever, and I was like I don't feel like we should be watching this with her see the kills are kind of over the top on terrifier.
Speaker 2:I love art.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I love the character, but also I love the practical fix of it, like it's not CG.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what so good about it?
Speaker 2:right, it's not the way, that Tyler's way, is practical. Yeah, I don't know that for a fact yet, I'm just knowing which is cool the world is.
Speaker 1:which is cool in the world of?
Speaker 2:yeah, oh yeah, how easy this does he used to do these short films that really had like reservoir dogs type.
Speaker 1:I really loved it so well, I'm fucking, I'm for anybody doing. I love to have them.
Speaker 2:I know we're all time we're talking about shitty jobs and how bad we hate them, but I also like to glorify people that Rose, above that and found well, sure, that's what we're about.
Speaker 1:All right, it's. It's cool that you know. Quit your fucking day job, because that shit is draining your life, and do what you actually Want to do, if you want to make fucking movies this dude's wearing his own merchandise t-shirt when I hang out. That's fucking. That's the dream. Oh, that's awesome. I think it's fucking awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. That's killer.
Speaker 2:So before we really get anything, we kind of had a brief poll here around the studio.
Speaker 1:My wife is around the studio. Yes, yes, my wife, and key is is In the in the production, both, as always but we're all pretty uniform on this, so I'm interested in hearing other people's takes.
Speaker 2:So please email, hit us up on the socials.
Speaker 1:You can send messages on Instagram. I'm more than happy to reply to messages on Instagram. Most of y'all know who you are. I'm bored.
Speaker 2:I could message on Facebook. I know we don't have a face.
Speaker 1:But you know who we are.
Speaker 2:So the question is poll quick poll this week, unpaid poll, hashtag unpaid poll. What is the best three-day weekend, friday, saturday, sunday or Sunday, or Saturday Sunday, monday.
Speaker 1:Well, everybody here agreed that Saturday, sunday, Monday, saturday, sunday, monday my opinion but what did I tell you? What did I say?
Speaker 2:What did you say?
Speaker 1:I said Saturday, sunday, monday and calling Friday, and calling Friday I mean that's perfect.
Speaker 2:I mean, I mean obviously, if it's our brand you get a start on your way, that's not possible. Well, it's why there's sitting.
Speaker 1:Monday. It's why there's banking holidays on Mondays, right yeah, it's because Monday's just better.
Speaker 2:Let's get Labor Day, memorial Day, they're Mondays.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have what Labor Day coming up Memorial Day, labor Day.
Speaker 2:I get them to me. Which one's, which one's which.
Speaker 1:Labor Day's coming up, labor Day and I'm off on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and Sundays. So I'm off Sunday, monday, tuesday, wednesday.
Speaker 2:Five-day yeah, it's hot, that's great. So I mean, I guess our argument for this and it obviously, if anyone wants to blow us up and say otherwise, if you're taking off Friday, you start the week on Monday, which is already shitty. Monday is stereotypically the worst day of the week.
Speaker 1:If you work a Stereotypical Monday, the Friday night my favorite jobs I've ever had and my favorite schedules over had is I don't work Mondays. Yeah, they're all the best.
Speaker 2:It's always awful, like my team does escalation work. So if someone's literally like trying to get their shit to work all weekend long and can't I get blown up on Monday, and emails bro Monday morning oh you got so many fucking emails and you know what?
Speaker 1:it's not the same on Tuesday. If I come in on Tuesday and I have to answer Saturday, sunday and Mondays emails, that's fine coming on Tuesday. Monday emails where the world's on fire have probably already been resolved, yet Everything I'm reading, everything I'm reading on my emails, that shit's already been resolved. It's already been taken care of.
Speaker 2:It's fine. So there's that, alright. So we're on the same page there. Tuesdays are so much better when you're off on Monday. There's so much worse when you actually worked Monday already. Wednesdays and Thursdays they're, eh. But the problem with Wednesdays and Thursdays is you're looking forward to Friday and they drag ass. Yeah because you know you're hoping for that Friday.
Speaker 1:I work in an evening shift on Thursday and it feels like it takes an eternity to get to Friday.
Speaker 2:It's miserable. But the counter effect you're off on Monday, so you come in Tuesday. All your fires are already been put out. Yeah you're just playing catch up. Wednesday Now feels like really your Tuesday. Yeah, thursday feels like your Wednesday. I never will get to Friday, but Friday is actually your Thursday and you're done and everything's over and it's done.
Speaker 1:That's wonderful too. I feel like we should just take off. So you know, schools are looking at doing like four-day, Four-day schools and please do Tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, yeah. I know that's it'd be great, but they're gonna end up being off Fridays. That's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2:Why, though why?
Speaker 1:I don't know that's what they're gonna end up doing, because it's. Kids love to take off Friday's cuz. Kids don't understand.
Speaker 2:You know what ends up happening is our kids are getting of that age anymore. We're there. You're still gonna have that damn Friday night football game. Yeah, friday. You're still gonna be doing shit on Friday, monday's practice right.
Speaker 1:So I can just let them take off Monday, so they can only have practice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm with that, they're gonna be there. Yeah, I feel like, um, I got that coming up, that I'm off those days. I know I read a thing one time that was talking about you can take like it showed you like the days to take your PTO, and this was if you work Monday through Friday, you had a maximum PTO. And it was like, if you use 16 hours or worked 10 hour shifts, and it was like, if you use 20 hours in this week, you can have off seven days in a row. And it was like, if you use 40 hours, if you use your 40 hour vacation on these days, it was like you can have off 16 days in a row, whatever. And it was like, yeah, that's wonderful.
Speaker 2:The problem is people's figuring that out Like you just brought that up mean you both know about it. Keisha's not in her head, so it's becoming an own thing. So now you got to fight with other fuckers for those vacations.
Speaker 1:Everybody else is putting those fucking in.
Speaker 2:So you got to put it in well in advance.
Speaker 1:I don't worry about it, I don't. I work, I work, even shifts and shit. I don't. That doesn't affect me. I work Saturdays, I work. That's the thing about weekends is it's like I don't get three day weekends Cause I'm, I fucking work Saturdays. I work every.
Speaker 2:Saturday, if you might hear, is Jingle Janglin. This is me playing with some merch over here in studio. I'm just throwing this out there In case you hear it. But Ke got some bad ass burning.
Speaker 1:We'll post a picture on my Instagram.
Speaker 2:We got to these things are awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're, they're tumblers.
Speaker 2:I don't care if it clings and clings.
Speaker 1:Unpaid lunch. Tumblers that are. They're pretty awesome.
Speaker 2:I'm still in one of these. I'm taking it to work, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm, I'm walking marketing. Ke shows up with the greatest unpaid lunch merch. She always shows up with stuff and got the coolest shit.
Speaker 2:She is the number one fan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, still not using Mike, no, she don't. It's not even on.
Speaker 2:She doesn't know how to she act like she's going to, but she don't know what to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um yeah, I think. Yeah, everybody needs to answer that. I really like to get some feedback on it and everybody like if you think Friday is a better day, why is Friday a better day?
Speaker 2:I would like to know that, like, obviously like the only thing I could see though.
Speaker 1:So office space right, let's go to that that movie. If you take off Fridays, like you don't have to deal with the shit asking you to do, like if you work a job that that you're required to do some stuff on the weekend, you know what I mean. Or you could ask to come in on the weekend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's that.
Speaker 1:Avoiding your boss on Friday. I'd also just like to bring up something else in that movie.
Speaker 2:So we've talked about this before. How yeah, it's our Bible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've talked about that before how it kind of inspired the like. I watched Office Space for like two weeks straight and I almost quit my job because of it and it really kind of inspired. The podcast in the first place Was was Office Space and and and like, and it's interesting how that show is like the satirical standpoint of it, like he quits, but then he finds out he's like oh, actually I gotta fucking work somewhere, I gotta do something Right, but it's. But he quits because he's miserable at what he's doing and that's where we're at with it. But, man, I found that my greatest motivation for doing my work is to have less meetings. Oh yeah, that's my greatest motivation. Man, I just want to be left alone and and I can't. And we had like some some, some changes around and got new, you know, introducing to some new management and new management style and more hands on and micromanaging is what you mean.
Speaker 1:It doesn't get there yet, because I really like, I like my boss you know what I mean Like I really enjoy it, but but it's like a I feel like sometimes it's.
Speaker 2:So I do better job? Or did they go through some type of managerial training where they were trying to usher in a new movement and your workplace?
Speaker 1:Oh no, my boss quit.
Speaker 2:Fuck, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, my boss moved to a different state.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's, she did, she bailed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, she bailed and she's stopping her from quitting her job. I'm telling you, they wasn't she. She set beside me at work so like if there was something going on, she'd like hey you know, it's a yeah, it's a yeah. And and now it's like I have to have a meeting with somebody and then you know that's 200 miles away.
Speaker 2:Every time 200 miles away, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know it's. You know it's in ours, in two different parts of the state.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's just. You know, that's my motivation now is that if I get in trouble, I have to have a bunch of meetings and you're talking about meetings like the other day.
Speaker 2:I won't. I won't keep just spamming like crecia with the ads here during this session, but she's mentioned the most of anybody who's not been on the podcast. Exactly she needs to be on the podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But she brought it up one day hey, there's this training that I got to put you in. So now that we were, you know we went through this corporate buyout, et cetera, et cetera. They're wanting to get everybody level, set on the same playing field for how we want to coach and manage our agents. You know, manage I don't like that word, but you know what. I mean yeah.
Speaker 1:You don't like the word manage.
Speaker 2:Like when I said it. It makes me think of wanted. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. I'm going to come back to movies again. It's like he used to, they used to manage accounts and it's like they don't like that terming, I don't know why. Just that, maybe set me off right there. I was like okay, cool, I don't care to do some leadership training. Fine, we do it, but like once a year. I was like what's this look like? She's like it's four hours a day five days a week for three weeks.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God. Oh no, it's not. She's like 11 to three, monday through Friday, for three weeks and 60 hours. I finished one week and I want to die, so that's worse than the media.
Speaker 1:So you like work your normal shift Like you were doing your normal shift in the morning until 11, and then you're doing that training until fuck that. That is awful.
Speaker 2:But the problem is now I feel so unmotivated to do anything until 11. Like cause, I know I was like I'm going to get in here and I'm just going to go. It's like you go into this training and the top bullet point in this Adobe workroom is make sure you are in a uninterrupted environment. Oh yeah, I managed 25 people with no other coaches in my department that was not written for call center workers. No, you can't possibly do that.
Speaker 2:Like literally on Friday I left the training on Friday I got my whole entire world was burning down. I'm like guys, this ain't going to work, yeah.
Speaker 1:It doesn't feel like you need to Like. What could it be? What do you do Like dude? Is it relevant? Like okay.
Speaker 2:So the guy's voice. I love this guy, I think he's a fantastic trainer, but he is like the most mellow. Uh, no, no, his like. What's the best way to say this without being disrespectful, Cause I really liked the guy.
Speaker 1:I want to describe this girl without being disrespectful.
Speaker 2:Uh, he is like a calm, somber. Great value math and mucus.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's what his voice Like. He's like. It's like he's sitting on your mercury and not Lincoln.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like yeah. So, guys, I'm like waiting on him to do like the chess pounding thing Fuck and. Wolf of Wall Street. It's not happened yet. I'm kind of hoping it does, but it's just. I guess my thing is. The only thing worse than a meeting is training. Yeah, when it's training for 60 hours over three weeks. Fuck my life.
Speaker 1:Hey, we can have my former boss on. She was a trainer. No, no, I don't even talk about training anymore. I think it's literally like the topic says no, no, no, I'm off training.
Speaker 2:Okay, guys, so we're going to be talking about change management. Okay, there's a big, huge change about to come down through the corporate structure and you got to communicate to your agents.
Speaker 1:No, it's same shit I've been doing for 15 years. Is it fucking new?
Speaker 2:No, it's like all right. Now our next topic how do you build a relationship with your agents?
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:By not fucking micromanaging them and trust them to do their job and if they don't come down like a sledgehammer, that's how I do it. I mean, and I don't even like doing that. I don't know when the last time I was sledgehammer ride. That sounds mildly sexual, but you know what I mean. I've not had to come down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you aggressive as hard I think using aggressive bosses. I'm not aggressive, no.
Speaker 2:I've seen you.
Speaker 1:Well, it's cause you don't usually have to be right now, but when I do your people, I get PC.
Speaker 2:Your people follow you into battle. Well they like you. I kind of like to think that never let me work for you. Why not I don't know, but I think this is a good segue into our next topic. That's where I was doing. I like it.
Speaker 1:That was solid podcasting. Woo Many people were cheering just now. No, no, no, just anybody just does.
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Speaker 1:Sykes, we talked about it, but I think I left before then. You, there's that.
Speaker 2:And at one point in time you did have an interview at GameStop. I did have, yeah.
Speaker 1:But we'd been over that shit. Yeah, that bullshit. Yeah, that wasn't anything, but we had. We had an interesting thing that we were talking about was how you can. You can well, you can explain it better than I can.
Speaker 2:So really it kind of comes down and I kind of already used this canned response earlier in the episode but I have in the past been labeled as a corporate kiss ass. My first promotion I ever got within the call center world, I was told that the only reason that I got my position is because I was playing ping pong with the side director.
Speaker 1:Man, I don't get that vibe from you, though, like I don't get the vibe from you that it's that you get where you're from or you get where you're at from that.
Speaker 2:So it does give off that view, though, and it's easy for people to like take that and run with it, so like, for instance, perfect example is my wife right, my wife worked at a local grocery store for at least a year and a half longer than I did, and slaving as a friend in you know, I come into the role you know I get hired on.
Speaker 2:I am literally there for a week and a half and they're like you want this cash office job where you can come here and just count money and not wait on customers, and she hated me for it. She's like what the fuck? This guy's been here a week and a half and we've been slaving for a year and a half two years and he just walks straight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but she's an introvert. She's an introvert, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's kind of what we're getting into here now. So you have obviously everyone knows you have your introverts and your extroverts, those that are incredibly willing to go out and just be all pappy all the time and have conversations that everybody people are attracted around them, things like that. Then you have introverts. It's like don't fucking talk to me, don't look at me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just don't Like. We were talking about this earlier actually, with my sister-in-law. She just recently went off to university and we were talking about what it's like living, you know, dorm life and stuff like that, and she's like my RA is a little bit weird. I'm like that's why yeah, that's why they became an RA. They're like most of your RA's are at least my personal experience from my university life. They didn't want a room with anybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a hundred percent.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to go ahead and put my name out here so I can get my own room, and most of the time when you go to your RA and you want something, they will do whatever you need them to do, just so they don't have to talk to you, to get you fucking out. Just please, fucking go away.
Speaker 1:Because they're complete introverts.
Speaker 2:I mean it just happens that way. But then there's also like extremes of both sides of it, so like I've been labeled corporate kiss ass before, but I'm a firm believer I am very, very, very good at one skill, like if I go to any job I probably don't have half the product knowledge that someone else does, may not have all the workflows, but I'm a firm believer that workplace networking is not a lost art.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:I definitely think, you know, not in so much in the workplace, just networking in general.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Building relationships is important.
Speaker 1:How many jobs have? I mean, like knowing people matters so much going places.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Building connections, getting opportunities to do certain things like that really kind of picture yourself out there. So when something does come available, they're like hey, I'm going to talk to this person about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, anytime I've been called, they're like dude, you'd be perfect for this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like. I mean, you were talking about this here recently when they were a or like one of our local high school teams. They were talking about needing a new voice of the football team to do, you know, live broadcasting on Friday nights and stuff like that, and mine, your name's got thrown into it. I think that's partly because of the podcast, but also because we're allowed a brace of talking to people, definitely extroverts, definitely know the sport, don't care to just talk all the time.
Speaker 2:It's not even so much like, yeah, you need to know the sport, but being able to like dead air is the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's much worse when you're in person with people, because that becomes uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that situation is weird, I guess. Uh, it's funny because the industry we're in you get surprisingly even though it's phone calls, like when you're talking all the time, you get a lot of introverts or job. Our industry Hires a lot of introverts.
Speaker 2:A lot of it's generational gaping too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, sure, but I mean I guess it's an introverted kind of. I mean, a lot of it is anyway yes.
Speaker 2:No, it's a little gaping part, especially for like a call center. Um, who do you typically see have the best conversations? Someone that's younger, in their early 20s, or someone that's 45, 50, 55 years old?
Speaker 1:Well, 40 older people yeah.
Speaker 2:Because they've had to have conversations, people to get where they need to go in life.
Speaker 1:You think that's like part of like why we're, why we can communicate, is because uh.
Speaker 2:I think that's why we're well rounded.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because we're coming out of that generation, our age group, I would say probably.
Speaker 1:Well, we grew up without phones 35 to 45, 35 to 40 phones till we were, till we were in our teens, there wasn't internet. We didn't have cell phones, we didn't have internet.
Speaker 2:But if you wanted to talk to somebody you had to get on a phone and turn it into turn it into a three way conversation which they have to be turned into like a 12 way conversation.
Speaker 2:We sound super old right now we do sound super old, but there's benefit in it. There really is. I'm not. I sound like a fucking boomer. But the newer generations coming in they're much more tech savvy. Like I can bring someone in and teach them the product if they're 20 years old, in 10 seconds flat, but they ain't gonna be able to talk to anybody. They're going to have to learn that part of it.
Speaker 1:They'd rather text you than. They'd rather text you than talk to you.
Speaker 2:You bring in good old granny Joyce in from nowhere and she's going to have the best conversations in the world. But she's like how do I turn on this computer pad?
Speaker 1:And they're always going to have tech issues. Light it up, get great surveys from customers.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, but like I said, there's a generational gap in the middle there. That's good on both sides.
Speaker 1:Well, and there's levels of that right In jobs. There's levels of introverts right, so you can be an introvert and be successful at the job because you're an introvert right. I mean like there's plenty of people that are up high that are introverts because they're so good at their job from being introverts.
Speaker 2:Yep Cause. It helps the micromanage Right. It helps it's not so much micromanaging more as it helps them develop in the home skill and delegation.
Speaker 1:But then you can be really. You can be too introverted and not get promoted at all because nobody knows you exist.
Speaker 2:So those are the two extremes, and this is where we come back to the segue. Right, I feel like what's always helped me in my professional positioning and being able to do what I need to. Potentially, I feel like an interview. Well for one, but I'm extroverted to the point where we used to take all these strength assessments and stuff like that and mine always came up whoo, which is basically when others over yeah.
Speaker 2:And one of my old bosses. A guy comes back to the delegation part. We call him a robot and Android all the time and has no emotion when the best managers I've ever seen in my life. But he's the God and King of all things. Delegation.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's why he done all these strength assessments to figure out exactly who he needed and want specific roles to fill out. Yeah, what he called basically his Avengers.
Speaker 1:That makes sense.
Speaker 2:So he would build out his Avenger team and then, once we were set, he didn't have to touch us. We just went rocked out and decimated off.
Speaker 1:That's smart.
Speaker 2:So that's where my extrovert part comes in and benefits me. Now on yours like you're like why. Why did you never?
Speaker 1:hire me.
Speaker 2:You are so extroverted to a point that yours becomes instead like professional extroverting Yours, comes breaches almost always over into the relationship side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you become everybody's bro, yeah. So what's funny is, like Some of the jobs that I've had, like I end up being best friends with the managers like Mark was my manager, the cost center, jenkins and Me and him, me and him ended up being great friends and he's like closer to my dad's age than mine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean. But he was like well, you tell us that story about how you get. He's like listen, dude, this is how you're losing your job today. Yeah like he just set you up.
Speaker 1:Well, and I seen him outside and that goes back to like knowing people writing networking, right when I do that, because I ended up getting a job with him when he was, when they were running, you know, the, the online, the e-commerce stuff I just seen him in a fucking parking lot and he was like we got this going, could use you on our team, and I was like alright man, I will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2:That helps but, here again comes. The problem is when you're start trying to climb, you know, yeah, the corporate ladder and your best friends with all the bosses. They're like, if I promote him up now of a sudden, I'm in charge of him. Yeah really really, really close. If something happens and I have to cut bait, does it ruin our friendship?
Speaker 1:That's why I like I have a tendency to build friendship. That's why, working with working under you would be tough, and I only I mean I only said it because I have a tendency to be a little insubordinate if, if the Time, if the situation calls for it. You know what I mean like if something is not, even if it's not your fault. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I was in support with my previous boss a little bit in in meetings because I Think the situation didn't you know, I think the situation called for me.
Speaker 2:It's got your vocal it is your vocal, yeah, but you're. I wouldn't say that you're negative. Yeah but you can take a negative situation and really use it as a Platform. Yeah, scream to the heavens about it. You're not negative, but all of a sudden it's like I've turned on a freaking fly buzz catcher outside everyone that he is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everyone feeds off and I realize that and I catch myself all the time like I'll be, like We'll be at the end of a meeting and this job and previous jobs and all jobs, it'll be at the end of a meeting and then you know, well, anybody got anything else, you know anything going up, and I'll just sit there for a second thinking what if anybody's gonna say anything like and and I know you can look, I can look around and be like None of these people gonna say anything, I Fuck, I'll just say it, yep, and it's like, and I just, and I say something, and then, and then like, two other people are like a yo, he's right, yeah, which the fucking because they're introverts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they're introverts.
Speaker 2:That's how the whole dynamic works.
Speaker 1:That just makes me a leader.
Speaker 2:But it's that wild card effect like that, like the one position that I had. That one point in time that you interviewed in is a position that it's basically considered what we would call next level health. It's probably the single most important position in the entire work environment, but probably also at the same time they're probably most disrespected. Unhaal it like no one gives a shit about these people. They're usually an afterthought and I'll say it because I managed them.
Speaker 2:I was one yeah they're the Freakin heart of a freaking call center, but they're quick to be forgotten. If something breaks, it's their fault. If something great happens, they don't get glorified for it. Yeah, that should happen, it's so someone like what you just explained as your to your seat when it's already a negative convoluted environment? It's napalm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I know that and I guess that's why, like at the, the, the jobs that I've been most successful at, it's like jobs that kind of require you to be like that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Because they're really good in sales.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because there's jobs. Yeah, except for the problem is Let me take, my problem is with sales. I I actually don't care, if you want it, this is that's my problem with sales is I'm like I care so little about whether you which is funny, because Maybe it's just because it comes back to like doing something you love because in this, doing this podcast, I care so much about what people oh yeah, you know how people feel about the episodes and stuff so like it's funny that like I don't care that much At and you know. That being said, I'm usually like my surveys are usually good, my customer reviews are almost always Because I'm an extrovert and I just talk to people.
Speaker 2:So that's the biggest thing. Like there's, there's value to both sides of it, right.
Speaker 1:People are confused. People are confused too about like how I can just talk to people you know what I mean Like on the phone, like I just fucking.
Speaker 2:My why If we go to the grocery store she's like sometimes I don't even want to take you because what? Should be a 20 minute grocery store. Our wives hate us in public, it turns out, and we have prominent fathers right.
Speaker 1:We had fathers that were known in the you know, at their height, known in the community and everybody knew them and so like they know us and we coach sports and like know our kids and yeah, don't take us anywhere.
Speaker 2:We're very sociable people so you can get us out in public. We're just going to talk. If you take me over to the Walmart in Virginia, the Walmart I'll send a 90 right there, if you take me over to Walmart.
Speaker 1:It's gonna die a half an inch instead of a store.
Speaker 2:You gotta remember like my workplace at the hot, when we're at max capacity, probably holds what seven, eight hundred people Probably more probably, yeah, you know how hard it is to go to Walmart and not see one of them.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, you know how it gets to work. Anywhere else I sit directly, besides somebody I worked with this. I work in a row with people who are like yeah, they're everywhere, there's everybody there. I don't know how we're still hiring people Probably how Zach's been hired to work with Bonnie. Bonnie sits like a few seats behind me. Don you banks and Bonnie is there. Bonnie's there. Yeah, when Bonnie starts Bonnie's in sales, she's great. Bonnie, I love you, bonnie's awesome.
Speaker 2:I love her and on. Yeah they're awesome. Listen, I gave them like a foolproof idea the other day for how they could make millions.
Speaker 1:They were talking about how we need to have Don on right, he's listening. Don wants to be on. We didn't have one. I love to have done. He's great yeah.
Speaker 2:Um God, I'm trying to remember exactly. It was the. We were basically just talking about Don like cleaning and using tools and stuff outside. If I remember correctly, she's like I've told him all the time that he just needs to put on some like short shorts and go out there and video tape and everything Like give him some Daisy Dukes but call him Daisy Don's and call that the channel and just have him in that and his boots cleaning, like you're freaking a black stone that sales.
Speaker 2:I'm like just whenever you make your millions, just don't forget about me. Like I'm in your marketing division. I'm in your corner.
Speaker 1:It's coming up podcast and talk about it.
Speaker 2:Listen those two. See, I don't know how Bonnie would classify herself if she's an introvert or extrovert. I think she's kind of straddling the fence.
Speaker 1:She is, I think, but she's, um, I think she's kind of an introvert, though, like I mean she really, like even at work, is like kind of just wants to do her thing and go on. You don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, but she's also a great boss. Listen, I've said before and I've said over again. I'm not just saying that because I don't know if she.
Speaker 1:We just we just freely talk about people in this podcast. Listen, it's fine, we're gonna talk about you when she left.
Speaker 2:It broke my heart.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've never worked for her, never worked under her, barely worked with her hand in hand, but just watching from afar. I've never respected someone more as a man.
Speaker 1:Yes, she's awesome.
Speaker 2:A woman had her shit in line. Yeah, she's awesome. Just watching her lead was phenomenal. Don is a hundred percent an extrovert.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:There's nothing introverted about Don.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like us yeah.
Speaker 2:I love Don. I think Don should be a politician at some point and just get into that. Listen if you are a connoisseur of beef that man can make some Chicago style Italian beef oh, I'm all about Chicago beef. So it's Don, if we bring you on listen our guests bring gifts.
Speaker 1:I have all the stuff ready in the morning.
Speaker 2:Our guests bring gifts, we expect Italian beef.
Speaker 1:We have all the stuff ready to cook. All right, we'll record this episode and you make it. You make Italian beef in his Daisy Dons. We'll hold the mic for him while he's cooking.
Speaker 2:Oh God, no, I would love to have him on. We need to work that out.
Speaker 1:We will work that out, but but that makes sense though. Right, Like in conclusion yes you can be too much of an extrovert Right that it that it affects your job, and I am aware that my job has been affected in the past by how loud I am and how vocal.
Speaker 2:There's multiple different levels of vocal aim about things. There's a brace of extrovert. Yeah, there is the extrovert that is really good at networking and kind of building relationships. Aka those usually get coin corporate KS ass or finding some way to quote, unquote screw their way to top or whatever. Have you want to say it?
Speaker 1:I know her.
Speaker 2:And then you just have the genuine extrovert that just likes people. But then on the other side of the coin, you have the introvert that just doesn't want to talk to anybody. There's just there to do their job.
Speaker 1:Some of the best workers. They will always be some of the best workers ever, introverts that have been introverts and not promoted in like 30 years and they just work there and they're introverts, they do their job and they go home, yep.
Speaker 2:Then you have the fully shut down introvert. That's sometimes just barely functioning. And then the introvert that needs a voice. That's kind of what you were saying to me. Yeah, it's like hey you know, this is what I feel is going on and I've said they start pulling on behind it, but then also, like I said, some of the best leaders, one of the best leaders I've ever had in my life, is literally a robot. Yeah, I'm 100% positive he is not living.
Speaker 1:Is that just riding the line? Or is that introvert? Or like he's fully introvert, Like One last roundly?
Speaker 2:spiel before we go to closure on this. Like he literally pulled me into a room one time before and said listen, your job today is to see here and listen to me on this phone call. Okay, Do what he said. I'm going to be on a call with some people that I don't have great relationships or haven't been a relationship with before. I have no social awareness on what my tone sounds like. I want you to raise your right hand if I'm being dick and I need to change the course, left hand if you need me, if I need to be a little bit more of a cupcake and throw some fluff in Love it. I was like that's literally my job today. He says that is your job today, but that's also the reason I appreciate that's probably. I will say this it's LaCretia. You can't get mad when I say this, because we both come from this.
Speaker 1:We have a LaCretia count in this episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's going to get mad because she's my direct boss right now and I love her dearly, but she's going to say this too, because we both came from that same management tree. Yeah, literally that man has had more of an impact on me as a leader than anybody else because he said this is what you're good at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he pointed you in the right direction, like the main one sent me halfway across the country and trust me to go in and have conversations with people. Yeah, but yeah, man, so that helped me exercise that talent. It's good to have those people too, and it's helped me in coaching, like in all these other things with kids and everything else.
Speaker 1:That's enough fucking talking about work.
Speaker 2:It is enough. Talking about you know what else helps a whole lot when you're extrovert. You can talk about your social media platforms.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:You can talk about them pretty well. So, for instance, I'm paid lunch for TikTok In Instagram. I'm supposed to picture those I'm not talking here.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to post, I'm going to tell them I'm supposed to picture those.
Speaker 2:I'm talking here. This is my moment, and you're killing me right now. I quit. You're going to see you and Andy just go quit. I had a fight last week with the intro by myself anyway, Do it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be quiet.
Speaker 2:No, seriously like just fucking around, but he's going to put these on Instagram. These cups are awesome. I would love, at some point, to be able to find a way to make these available to the public. But definitely check out Instagram, tiktok, follow us on any of your social media platforms but other than the meta whorehouse.
Speaker 1:I'm going to make us do that.
Speaker 2:I don't want to go to Facebook, I don't want to deal, but also on your favorite podcast delivery devices. Definitely check us out Google podcasts, anything pretty much they can carry. We've got it on the platform to be able to shift out to that Anything you got.
Speaker 1:Um no, I just uh, you know, might not be in point next week. I don't get this job.
Speaker 2:Exercise your extrovert, that's good.
Speaker 1:Um, hey guys, you know, remember that nobody's stopping you from quitting your job, but you shout out to that boss they quit Love it. Just quit a while ago too, it's nice.
Speaker 2:Cut your matter.