Unpaid Lunch : A Podcast About Work
Everyone hates work, but almost all of us have to do it. Join Heavy D with a new guest each week, asking the dumbest questions about their job we can come up with.
Basically just people talking about how much they don't want to work. That's all.
We try to stay under your lunch time so you have time to cry before clocking back in. usually a guest stops by to tell us a story about their crappy job.
Remember that nobody is stopping you from quitting your job, But you.
Unpaid Lunch : A Podcast About Work
I, Scab
Are you ready for a raw exploration of the entertainment industry as you've never seen it before? Prepare to be enlightened as we tackle the burning issues of union strikes, fair worker compensation, and the controversy surrounding the lack of union representation. We're tearing down the curtain to reveal the industry's struggle for collective bargaining, and the ripple effects of these tussles on the creation of our favorite movies and shows. Marvel fans, we've got you covered too! We dissect the MCU's transformation in the wake of the early 2010s union strikes and the advent of streaming platforms. Join us as we scrutinize the Robert Downey Jr. era, the criticism leveled at the writing in various series, and our thoughts on Moon Knight, the Nick Fury series, and Dead Meat's Kill Count show.
Picture this: a TikTok influencer gets a lucrative offer from a movie studio to have their own show, but accepting could mean crossing the dreaded union line. What would you do? Brace yourselves as we delve into the ethical implications of this situation. We're talking about selling out versus staying true to your roots and the potentially severe consequences of choosing the former. We also discuss AI's growing influence in the industry and ponder if it's a game-changer or a ticking time bomb.
As we wrap up, we delve into the heavyweight topic of crossing the picket line. The stakes are high as we evaluate the moral and professional consequences of such a decision. We discuss how the dynamics of the industry have been altered by the rise of streaming platforms and the crucial choices influencers face between their financial prospects and maintaining their fanbase. At the end of the day, it all boils down to the importance of personal responsibility and long-term decision-making. So, tune in for a riveting discussion that's sure to make you see the entertainment industry in a new light!
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Hello everyone, welcome to Unpaid Lunch. Everyone's here on my time today. This is gonna be my show because unfortunately everyone is out right now on strike standing in solidarity with SAG-AFTRA. But I'm hoping at some point we can all come to a compromise and get ADP and Dusty back in the studio. But in this timeframe I'm just going to have to settle with Monroe Time to clock out for lunch. Welcome to Unpaid Lunch and thank you for spending your break with me today. And you know, unfortunately, with all the union strikes and everything else going on, with all the social media world and acting and everything all around us, we were not able to get Dusty's contract picked up. So, oh wait, no, I see a scab coming in right now. It looks like he's crossing the picket line.
Speaker 2:I fuck everybody, I don't care. Uh, yeah, really, it's um, I just didn't write anything.
Speaker 1:So I'm not that.
Speaker 2:I'm standing in solidarity with with my uh.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's a great lead in for the whole with my SAG people.
Speaker 2:I'm in solidarity. I didn't. I didn't write a damn thing this week. It has nothing to do with crippling anxiety. Um, it's because I'm standing with him.
Speaker 1:I'm perfectly fine with that. Like when you stand with SAG-AFTRA, do you do like the one?
Speaker 2:like the bloodline.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just one hand slowly, just one finger up in the air.
Speaker 2:One hand.
Speaker 1:I wish you had like a hot key where you could just play Romans entrance.
Speaker 2:They're all confused. Fantastic, that would be awesome.
Speaker 1:Or it just said acknowledge me yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll make an acknowledge me one.
Speaker 1:Oh, I dig it. Yeah, we need that, we need that.
Speaker 2:Every time we have a guest, zach. So, um, honestly, zach was going to be here tonight. He called in, but he called in.
Speaker 1:Still it further leads to his allure as the greatest supporter of this podcast of all time.
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 1:I'm to the point now. Like we don't give him a lunchy, we just make this motherfucker hall of famer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like he just goes to the top list.
Speaker 1:He's never going to show up to accept the award.
Speaker 2:He's going to call him. He's going to fucking call him. That's what's funny. He's just going to quit. We should hire him for the show and let him quit. And let him quit and then have him on as a guest. About quitting.
Speaker 1:I support that. I stayed in solidarity with that.
Speaker 2:We say, that probably too much.
Speaker 1:Probably, but you know that's one thing. That's been, you know, heavy on my brain over the last day or two is, you know, we are both very fat and lazy men. I feel, like that's rude. I think that's an attack, I feel like I call it, as to see it, man. Yeah, I mean you're not wrong, but but what do fat and lazy men do? Eat and drink. Watch a lot of shit on streaming devices.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I dread the next like however long it is, like I'm. That's one thing. I've talked to another guy today Like what does the back catalog look like for a lot of these industries and for those that are not connected to any of this? Or like what the fuck are these guys talking?
Speaker 2:about. Well, we just got caught up with COVID. Yeah, right, yeah we just got caught up. That was going on during COVID too.
Speaker 1:So right now, a unifying body which is basically a union for most theatrical film workers, whether it be people that operate boom mics, riders, you know the whole shebang. If you look at someone on a film set that's working, they are normally part of a union, unless it's like an indie film or something of that nature that's independently funded. I'm looking at you, passion of the Christ, but that unions, that unions different.
Speaker 2:That's the union of male.
Speaker 1:If you don't join that union, you go to hell, male Gibson. But so basically one of the big things, and I kind of wish we had Andrew here for this episode because it'd be fantastic, because he, he's on strike. He's on strike, the man is all about some chat GPT, he loves some AI, and I think I mean anyone that says it's not part of this union strike. It definitely is. Oh yeah. You can literally say write a script about to chat GPT and it will write you a fucking movie.
Speaker 2:Quick, quickly, quickly. It does Quickly yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's one of the big things right now is a lot of the riders and things like that feel underappreciated, feel like they're kind of being taken advantage of, not financially compensated appropriately for their efforts and with all the jokes of you know sag standing with. Truly do stand with these folks. Like it's hard to be a shit on job podcast and not stand for.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a hundred percent. Like, like, um, it's a hundred percent. Our, our brand is is you guys are not getting what you fucking need from the companies and you're not paid. Like the Mandy Moore thing talking about how much money she's made from uh, this is us, or whatever, is like pennies or something that's the big part of it too is other than her initial check.
Speaker 1:Rollties Nobody's getting royalty.
Speaker 2:Nobody signs contracts like sign felt used to. Jerry makes a fortune. Oh yeah, jerry's like. He's like everybody should be paid, like me he makes a fortune.
Speaker 1:People are going back now and just saying hey, I'm not. I mean, look at McCulloch with home alone. Oh yeah, dude made no money off of it what? Money he did to make. He snorted it all.
Speaker 2:I've probably seen that movie 500 times.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's top three Christmas movie easily. What's your top three Christmas movies?
Speaker 2:My top three.
Speaker 1:Christmas movies.
Speaker 2:Um Jingle All the Way is the first one.
Speaker 1:Number one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just cause I like Arnold when he's turbo man. Okay, yeah, I think that's the funniest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1:And um. So that's the jingle all the way. Is the one trying to find the action figure? Yeah, am I wrong? I think you're right.
Speaker 2:No, that's right, that's turbo man. And then, um, the Tim Allen Santa Claus rap and tell you what's really good, it's got it. There's a really solid one on Netflix where, um, where it's uh, kurt Russell is, is, and it's, and it's, goldie Hahn is, so it's the original.
Speaker 1:It's very good.
Speaker 2:It's a really good movie. I really enjoyed that. That's. That's a weird question. What month is it?
Speaker 1:Uh, we just came out July, it plays.
Speaker 2:It plays Christmas in Christmas in August.
Speaker 1:Um, I'm going to be like the meme Starhard.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's yeah. That's not fair because it's die hard. I didn't know where you stood. It's die hard, it's a Christmas Come out the coast, we have some fun.
Speaker 1:Literally sitting here right now. Make him fist my toes, try not to be in your carpet, try not to have nerve pain.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I'm glad you're working through it and not striking.
Speaker 1:I, you know. You know if this podcast would have better health insurance than We'll see where they go.
Speaker 2:Our health insurance is bourbon.
Speaker 1:I need some bourbon.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding, we don't just kid, we're not drinking. There's bourbon, I'm sure. I'm sure there's bourbon in there.
Speaker 1:I'm sure there probably is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think Union is a touchy subject, right when you're talking like cuz, when you're talking about work, like that's like the one thing at work, like, if you mention it oh, you're getting ostracized. Yeah, you're so fast, you're gone like, if you mention it, and and it's Luckily, I work in a place where I don't care. But you know what I mean, like I work in a place that In the previous call center.
Speaker 1:You worked at the one I'm currently employed at now. There's been people bringing it up before.
Speaker 2:I really try to.
Speaker 1:Hey, you got blacklisted. Yeah, I'm sure quite a walk, quite a while. No one ever actually came out and said, hey, this person's not getting any advancement opportunities because they mentioned the word shm Union.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the problem is it would have to be like more than one Of the same company like it had to be more than, like it would have to be, just like call center workers of America. You know what I mean. You know, and it's it's funny because, like the union is based around, like the, the mob ran it right. That's that's where it started and it's all protection.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was all protection, that's what it was anyway, and then, like I guess it turned into that's it's more like an east coast thing, right, like it's like steel workers union and, um, like I think that's who my wife's union is. Actually is the steel workers union, even though she's a nurse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so let's see, like, even like, like you talking about that, here's the way my brain is wired and this is the way I've always been in life, is I'm a huge fan of Just media, of all facets, right?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah you're sitting here talking about a union, it being protection, I'm literally fucking thinking about pinky blinders. Can't get it out my brain. Oh, yeah, for sure. So that that's like. That's why I'm so stressed out about this whole entire unions or not union. Sorry, very pro union, the whole entire hollywood based strike right now, because If we don't have a good back catalog, shit to survive over the next, you know.
Speaker 2:So I'm worried, like I don't I've not like read up on the progress, like I don't know if there's none from the last thing that I've heard that there's not a lot so how it was during covid and like last year, or Everything blends together Um 21. We didn't have New movies, right? No, they were. It was stuff that was filmed like previously.
Speaker 1:And when we came back, I feel like we came back strong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because everybody was just writing everything like stranger things. Season four was bomb Um yeah, so good, I worry about shows not getting, like I'm worried, so worried about like all my favorite shows, like the bears, my favorite show on television right now, and like they're not, just not gonna have a season three.
Speaker 1:Well, they're saying stranger things. Season five may not hit till 2026. Now is what? Something I saw it's 2025.
Speaker 2:Those kids will be 40 years old. They're gonna be 40 years old.
Speaker 1:They're gonna be older than freaking David harbour.
Speaker 2:Well, I think David harbour today was like um, I don't just want to be the stranger things guy anymore. Well, I was like you're not, you're, uh, you're the russian captain america.
Speaker 1:Here's the problem.
Speaker 2:What's his name? I don't, I've never watched where's wesson when you need him?
Speaker 1:Yeah, monroe's here somewhere. He's on track.
Speaker 2:Wesson's on strike. Um Wayne on strike.
Speaker 1:I've not seen black widow, I'm not even, but here's one of those things that ends kind of piggyback and back off. The disney episode that we just previously had is Like my biggest struggle is disney died with. Uh, robert downing jr the marvel university.
Speaker 1:Marvel did you marvel died completely when iron man snapped his freaking beautiful fingers. But I mean they've done a lot. I think what it's also kind of killed them as well, too, is they went to the streaming platform way too much and way too frequently. One division was not my copy. It wasn't my cup of tea, but I know a lot of people really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:See, I enjoyed one division but I hated a couple other shows like so this is probably a bad. This is probably a hot take, but like I wasn't nuts about Loki, like I liked Loki, I didn't like Loki. I liked it, but it was like it was too much. There was too much going on and I was like I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1:Like most did not like Loki. Um, I felt like it kind of undermined a lot of the things that had already been set forth, which I mean I get you got to do at some point to try to get a fresh take, but wasn't my cup of tea? Um See, uh, falcon winner soldier was aggressively mead because they had to change the host script because of covid.
Speaker 2:Microwave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, microwave. We don't have a we've um.
Speaker 2:Uh, our studio is the they didn't clean it. The stracker out. I don't know. We're not in the studio, it's, it's. It's in the dining room.
Speaker 1:It's a good trial. People gonna warm their food up?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's a clap or a.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a trombone thing, but I didn't have anything ready.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 2:That's how I feel most of the time. That sound is how I feel most of the time.
Speaker 1:That's yeah soundtrack of my life. Just that soundtrack fall. I fall a lot, though, so so Best marvel situation that's went to streaming platform was a moon night.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, tell me, I'm wrong. A lot of people love moon night.
Speaker 1:It was phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's nearly got the love that I think the.
Speaker 2:the last one was, uh, that Fury one, or yeah, the nick fury one. It was really bad, I guess, and they were talking about how same they really screwed Samuel Jackson. And a lot of people think that had a lot to do with, like the writing, a lot of people said that the writing was done by chat gpt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why a lot of people were a lot of people were like the writing was really really terrible and it was either done by chat gpt or they were already striking in their minds it was just writing shit Like. Anyway, it was just like this is terrible.
Speaker 1:Let's see what you gotta think back to, and just kind of harkens back to, the previous strike that we had. You know when was this?
Speaker 2:early 2010s, yeah last rider strike that end uh Screwing.
Speaker 1:The last two seasons have lost for one thing.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah because once they came out of that strike oh yeah, heroes died.
Speaker 1:Yeah, completely. That is when you see loss start going on, this big, huge, like bugged out, freaking, like time lapse Excursion through back in the past and they nothing made fucking sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was because that's what I'm worried about too. I'm worried there'll be a spaceship on the bayre in season probably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:This is like no, our restaurants on the spaceship. Now, this is what I'm expecting to have.
Speaker 1:I'd watch that. Yeah, I'm kind of into it. I think I'd watch it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, a lot of stuff's gonna get cancelled, right, I lost stuff Well like a lot of stuff is gonna get cancelled and, um, I just think there's gonna be Like all the stuff that we want to come out. Marvel. It's gonna hurt Marvel really bad. Disney will probably do.
Speaker 1:You just need to put the mic in the headset. Oh man, just just come on in. We got Monroe back here. He just crossed the picket line too.
Speaker 2:Monroe is now a scab. He crossed the picket line, um, and he's he's back on the show. Uh, I wonder like what the plans are.
Speaker 1:I'd like to be like inside the other road to like and that's kind of one of the things Like, are they?
Speaker 2:gonna make more shit. I don't know like. I gonna make shit like who's riding? Are people riding?
Speaker 1:One of my favorite shows on YouTube right now is a show called dead meat. So basically it's husband and wife. They're a huge horror movie fans and they do a specific show called the kill count.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And what the kill count is. It's like a 25, 30 minute, like just rapid-fire Overview of a horror movie. They'll go like that. So they'll go through and now highlight each of the kills in the movie cool, I'll keep a row encounter that the end of they give like golden chainsaw to the greatest keel. That's cool. Dull blade, how many kills per minute. In the movie Linked, it said I want that. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 2:What's it?
Speaker 1:called Dead meat is the name of the channel. The show is called the kill count shout out dead meat, kill count. James A Janice, I love you, you're my hero. But Even they are being hindered by this and it's almost as a hindrance, but like they've come up with a lot of Alerts and things like that on the channel where they're like we're standing in unity with saga. Yeah so we are not going to highlight Movies that we previously had a contract with, where we won the spotlight their movie and use them as an episode.
Speaker 1:We're not gonna do that. So now they're having to look at potentially doing Kills on video games and stuff like that until all of this gets manhunt do that. Yeah, man Manhand, we keep him busy for a while. That's the best game ever.
Speaker 2:Like even YouTube series don't really get impacted by this and I wonder luckily we don't write anything, so but I just wonder like how much it's gonna affect and how. I know how some youtubers feel about it Because I've watched some stuff and like how, like the reactions and how they, how they feel about it, that it's like how much work they're gonna put in to something and and how they feel like I mean, and it's not the same right, because they're not sag is not like, they're not with that. This content, like our content, things we do, but it feels like and Obviously we're a small part of that, right, I mean we're under 30 episodes. We just got started. You know we're new, new to, new to, but but we're in that realm, right, we're in that world and like real adjacent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it realm adjacent and it feels like Closer. For me, like the whole thing feels closer because, like, oh like, about fucking writing. Obviously we write Right, right shit for the, for the show.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing is, too, is like in no way shape form or fashion, like Technically you would coin us as this, but we're like attempting to be pre-budding influencers.
Speaker 2:Yeah 100%.
Speaker 1:I don't consider us influencers. I kill it. I consider us a bunch of. Yeah, we're just fucking off yeah some people, some people happen to hear us talk, a lot of people have that pipe drink, right yeah? So that brings in a whole another viewpoint of all this. So right now, tiktok is really a hotbed for budding influencers, people that want to Obviously quit, or not Tiktok.
Speaker 2:Shameless plug there's no shameless plugs but they want to God.
Speaker 1:Shameless was a good show. We'll come back to that. Oh, fuck yeah. Speaking of the better, oh, you've never seen shameless say that we're coming back. I'm literally writing down shame.
Speaker 2:No, you can't right.
Speaker 1:I'm not writing a script chat GPT type in shameless Okay, so shit. We've got social media influencers right now. There's one who's getting drugged through the mud right now. His tag on tiktok is his name is Colin. This name on tiktok is calling your mom. I mean weedy, fucking fantastic got it the dude kind of wishes at some point in the future that he would be far away. That's his dream. Oh he's an overweight, he's a guy tries to do stand up.
Speaker 2:You do a cartwheel.
Speaker 1:No, I would. I don't know, maybe he's been working out in previous videos I've seen. Used to follow the guy. Right, don't follow the guy anymore. He goes on this big, huge spree of self-promotion on tiktok where it's like, hey, I've been reached out to by a couple different studios that they want to Give me my own show.
Speaker 2:Like show, show show.
Speaker 1:There when they give me my own show. They don't know. I don't think they're like, I don't think he's lying at all. Here's a lot of things happen. The movie studios right now, because of the strike, are trying to find new forms of media content. Yeah so tiktok is a hotbed for that. That's basically a recruiting platform. So this dude's got two million followers. Movie studio sees that they're like okay, what if we give this guy his own show?
Speaker 2:He's not part of the people gonna watch it. He's not part of the union.
Speaker 1:So he gets really excited about it. He's like I'm not union, I'm not pro union, I don't give a shit by the data I. And then all of a sudden, all of tiktok just wreaks havoc on his life. They're like you're a scab.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cuz aren't you immediately. Aren't you immediately in the like? I thought like the actor's guild was like if you're in a movie, you're in the screen actors guild.
Speaker 1:I don't understand or know the full implications.
Speaker 2:I think if you're a I think if you're even an extra, I think you're in the screen actors, check it out.
Speaker 1:My room. We're gonna treat you like a producer. Yeah, I think, get in there, I'm pretty sure if you were ever in a movie, ever You're.
Speaker 2:You're part of the sack.
Speaker 1:It could be, that, could be that, but I know, like any films or not, and and oh really, if it's like, for instance, that's one of the things they keep coming, like this calling your mom guy keeps bringing up Mel Gibson, talk about the passion, the Christ, and I like thanks, because it was not, it was self-funded.
Speaker 2:It feels a whole lot like he shouldn't do that. Once you've performed in a principal role on a union film, you are considered Films. So there's the kicker so this guy?
Speaker 1:they're trying to use tiktok as a recruiting medium to pull up folks. Give them their own 20 minutes or five. It's very clever.
Speaker 2:It's a smart way to work around their system.
Speaker 1:But they are a scab. That being said, I Don't know how.
Speaker 2:I'd react.
Speaker 1:That's why I wanted to get into it. Yeah, so that was my like wanted to set the stage for all that. So me and you are people that have always thrived off of entertainment media. Our ultimate dream would be to work in that realm. If given the opportunity right now, would you pass the line? I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't. I don't think I have any yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm like, so that that's where this guy I've been watching the whole entire thing.
Speaker 2:Because like a few is 10 million followers, he's making money anyway, like we is making we don't make money. The only money we make Pays for our publishing, right, like our patreon fans pay for our publishing, and so that's and so and that helps out at shit Time. Yeah, but we're not like doing anything else, so, like I don't know how I would feel like we're not popular, right, and he's already popular.
Speaker 1:But here's the problem, here, in lines of problem, where he's blind to, in my personal opinion, when this strike ends, what?
Speaker 2:happens? Oh right, because in his channels gone to probably he's gonna ostracize his fans.
Speaker 1:Yeah because I like I remember at one point this dude was pushing 11 million and he's aggressively like 9.8. Now, right, I was one of them followed him because it is not so much that I don't like his contents while I'm followed him he was aggressively. I'm getting my own shit. Fuck all y'all in your union like Pat McAfee, but mean yeah.
Speaker 1:And then the next episode is like it listen areas next to talk Union doesn't apply to me. I never said I wasn't pro union or anything like that. Union is great for all those people. I'm just not a part of it. I was never gonna be a part of it. And Then the next to talk is him standing with a black background with a prepared speech, retracting everything. Insane, just a traitor. I'm like, bro, you would all in that, liam, well, you know it, it crack like the Pat McAfee thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um.
Speaker 1:ESPN's dead.
Speaker 2:With ESPN? Yeah, but like I wonder if that's how that's going to be, like if he's going to have. You know what I mean, if that's there because he didn't have, they didn't, they didn't have, they couldn't write anything.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's why my own personal opinion. I think ESPN was groundbreaking years ago with sports center and all of its other platforms and shows and stuff like that. But now you get to look at how sports media has evolved, Like you had McAfee on his own with his own show pulled in millions more viewers than what pardon, my pardon interruption was or what you know first there, you know, first take or whatever the freaking.
Speaker 2:ESPN show and he's going to bring those.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's the same thing as, but I think that was their concern. They're like our shows are not driving that type of following.
Speaker 2:It's not the same your ship anymore.
Speaker 1:It's not saying media anymore. It's like you've got some of these guys that's jumped over to HBO and showtime. They do their one show and they get a million viewers. You know that Shannon Sharp show.
Speaker 2:I can remember what it was called, but like they're performing better than what ESPN was. So the future is why, mac, if he didn't, is Stephen Smith's podcast does better than first take does.
Speaker 1:It does, yeah, it does.
Speaker 2:And his podcast is hot. It is not pad.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I think that's kind of a way of Disney's like actually finally making sense and finally saying our arcade view of sports media is dying. We need to evolve, so let's just throw money they threw that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they threw everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they threw money at it.
Speaker 2:And I reckon, pardon my take. You know that show, pardon my take. I listen to it like every week and I reckon they had, because they had a bar stall, had their own.
Speaker 2:Had the bar still is another thing that's changed and bar still had their own, had their own bedding service and ESPN is getting in the bedding game because I think ESPN signed with that company that pen media or whatever that that that took out that owned barstool and then sold it back to day Portnoy for a dollar. Because they're going to pair with ESPN. Espn is going to do like a bedding thing.
Speaker 1:I saw a video of Portnoy coming back into the office, so they know as I was fucking like big man.
Speaker 2:What kind of show are they running here? There ain't nobody fucking here. He was like it's one o'clock.
Speaker 1:I was like bro, just go get you some pizza.
Speaker 2:There ain't nobody fucking here. He was mad. He was like he was going live and like recording.
Speaker 1:I was he expecting a parade when?
Speaker 2:he got no he when he he was expecting it to be people in office working and like, and the way it was ran was not like he wanted to work remotely. Yeah, he didn't want it to be. He wanted it to be like it was, like everybody just run around the office and shit and like things just got big, you know. Well, I mean things are bigger than they used to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, barstool changed the world. Oh it did, bro. I mean it made hashtag, hashtag hashtag COVID tag.
Speaker 2:Let's get us a COVID flag up.
Speaker 1:We haven't had a COVID flag, since, like the, 10th episode.
Speaker 2:I'd have a good COVID flag. I like to get COVID.
Speaker 1:I could a couple days off.
Speaker 2:I'm looking for a covocation, and I've not had one for a while.
Speaker 1:So, listen, I don't want it because I'm finally getting ready to put my freaking kids back in school. Yeah you, can we not have COVID? No COVID.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're going to have a global pandemic. They're going to have an outbreak the first week they're there.
Speaker 1:Ah, we're going to have an outbreak of something. Keys just walked in. She's from an educational background. She's like don't wish as bad to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's office. She knows they're all carrying it around. Everybody's going to get sick again. My kids ain't had a stomach ache all summer, but they have one tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Just nod on this. You don't have to come on the mic or anything. Is there a teacher's union. There's not. Come on the mic there is a teacher's union, like locally, like is there a big teachers union or is it like one of the like?
Speaker 2:This is great podcast and she's shaking her head.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm just I'm trying to get the information. I'm treating her like a producer right now like hot mic.
Speaker 2:We don't have routers, so we're just trying to get everybody else to do it. We finally turned Monroe's mic on. Is he? He has things to say? Well, he's over here.
Speaker 1:He's just, he's researching everything. He's a research bunny to that.
Speaker 2:We do need that. My phone is on charge and I'm so lost. I just need to bring that.
Speaker 1:I'm not allowed to bring my phone in here anymore because I got yelled at by my father-in-law for crashing everything in his vehicle when I said, hey, say it again. Just, I'm not saying it again because I'll shut down everything in his car again. Ok, google.
Speaker 2:Let's hope that does it too. Yeah, Ryan said that last week and and evidently it shut down people's stuff. Hey, just don't listen to that loud.
Speaker 1:I just like that my voice registers on everyone's.
Speaker 2:Well, everybody sounds like that yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it's everybody's like an old redneck.
Speaker 2:So I think, since I've established that I'll cross the picket line, let's get back on that.
Speaker 1:Let's get back to that.
Speaker 2:What about you? Would I know if you, you, if you were offered like big money right now to like take unpaid?
Speaker 1:lunch. It depends on the money, so well, yeah, fucking everything does.
Speaker 2:But no, if they offered you a three million dollar contract.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you wouldn't cross a picket. You can go, you. I do not believe so no.
Speaker 1:But here's my thing, though If you're successful, you just sold yourself out for three million.
Speaker 2:I don't care to sell myself out.
Speaker 1:But what if you? You were successful under the right paradigm and you're worth three hundred million?
Speaker 2:You know, I don't think I'm worth three hundred million. I don't either.
Speaker 1:But we're playing with high pathetic here, so I'm going to go for a high pathetic.
Speaker 2:I might do it for three hundred.
Speaker 1:Yeah dollars. Yeah, I mean I would. I'm just like I guess three, fifty, nine Look.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying, I'm just saying how it's that everything has a price.
Speaker 1:Three million dollars. Yes, I think, if if you were like I know, they're going to give me three million dollars.
Speaker 2:Well, yes, nobody can put us on camera. Anyway, no, there's a reason, it's an audio podcast. Wide-ass lens fucking, just fucking, letter box lens. Put us across from each other and let us yell to each other for a while.
Speaker 1:Oh God, they just create a whole new aspect ratio we should do called unpaid lunch.
Speaker 2:It's just called its ass dash pecked ratio, aspect ratio. I think this shows format. Should probably just be me and you across from each other arguing about shit.
Speaker 1:You're just back on part of the interruption.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just think, I think, if, if, me and you if me and you yelled that like work sucks, no, it don't fuck.
Speaker 1:This is go. I mean, we all agree that work sucks. It's just you got more nuts than I do when it comes to Um.
Speaker 2:I give less fucks than you Like I give. I give less fucks about stuff. I think I had a meeting the first after the first episode with my boss about about our social media policies and I was like I follow our social media policies, I know what they are.
Speaker 1:I was like I'm I've done my research before I put this first episode out.
Speaker 2:I had done my research. You know how I feel about that. Anyway, we'll go, we'll go viral, and it's just. My goal is just to get you fired and then, and then we'll come up fucking with you. But he's not.
Speaker 1:Just a little bit. You could literally just message him and say man, I'm getting ready to quit my job, and like he would get frigging rock hard, I do it is, I'm super into it. If you were just joking like he would be bricked up for at least the next 36 hours.
Speaker 2:So, just like in scroll through, scroll through, tick tock at night, just watching two weeks Now, just tick tocks all the way through.
Speaker 1:Yes, but back to the whole topic. I really do think it's an interesting and like introspective type thing of what would you do for fame? Because in that situation, like clearly, obviously they're in a strike, this dude, I don't fault the guy for being excited. The calling your mom guy. I don't fault him for being excited. I don't because he's probably been working towards this in his entire life.
Speaker 1:And he's probably nose blind to what's actually going on. Initially Until everyone started calling him a scab. Then he got offended and then he realized I shouldn't have got offended and latched the way that I did Now. I probably killed my social media career.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe take the deal. If you're going to kill your social media career, then I had to think you just don't say anything.
Speaker 2:Like I said, it's hard for me to put things into perspective because, because of where we are with our podcast and where he's at with his, it's hard for me to put things into perspective. That you know, if we did get offered something, how I would feel about it. Because that's the thing now is like, like you said, like we talked about bar still changing the game, that now there's like conglomerates, that have podcasts under them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:That's and that's the thing is like one company has like 10 or 11 podcasts.
Speaker 1:Well, I literally listen to two daily podcasts. There are 25 to 30 minute episodes and they're they're built specifically for independent sports franchises Not independent, but it's singular.
Speaker 2:You listen to the B's one.
Speaker 1:It's like locked on is what I listen to say. I listen to locked on Cubs and locked on Chargers.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:There's one for every major sports team. Oh cool, but they all roll up underneath one umbrella. So this lock, the locked on company, but they probably have 45, 60. I mean they have one for betting, they have one for fantasy, they have one for everything, yeah.
Speaker 1:And like one of my, I'm actually spoke to a guy quite a bit on the charges when I asked him all the time about how theirs is doing. Oh, friends on Facebook and stuff, I reckon they get like 4000 downloads every episode. Oh, they're doing much better than we, are Better than we are.
Speaker 2:That's, that's decent. Um, so I think too, though, like we use so I don't know if you know this, I don't know if everybody knows this, but we use AI for our episode art and we also use AI synopsis on on the synopsis of the episode, because it's hilarious. Yeah, it's why I use it, because sometimes it calls you a different name, like it does, and I don't even edit it, like I don't even edit the synopsis, because I think it's hilarious, because it just says, like it doesn't understand what the fuck we're saying. I guess, especially when I talk fast, it has no idea and it just puts a bunch of random shit. Um, and you know that's just transcribing, like, so I don't know, because the transcription is all AI and the synopsis is all AI and the arts. So I mean, I guess we're fucking, I guess we're on the other side of the argument.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, cause it feels a whole lot like we're using AI, but we don't use AI to write anything, because all of our guests are going to be unique and you know, our material is generally unique. So in general, I wouldn't sell out on it. But my thing about selling out and this is how I've always felt about selling out like bands are the big thing People talk about like I can't believe they sold out and I was like is there a difference in selling out and making it? No, like it to make it.
Speaker 1:You have to sell out. It's toxic fandom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it's all of the ultimately sold out and I was like Pat made it and sell out like what he didn't need the money he made the money. Well, his boys don't make the money he made either. And now they do, yeah, like. And that's the thing, um is that you know he's taking care of everybody. Now, yeah, like, we take care of everybody. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I would do it. Yeah, the more I talk about it like you put it, that in that type of framework, well, you're a family man, right? I mean like I would do a law for my family.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying, Like it's like you wouldn't take the money. You know like you wouldn't like who gives a shit but there's a way to do it.
Speaker 1:You know, saying like it, like him coming out immediately and going look, I got this shiny new toy. Yeah, don't do that, just go build your show, let it come out, do your freaking, you know? Social media marketing campaign thereafter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it seems to hold on to my bad.
Speaker 1:Now he's getting bad publicity. Is that studio, even though he is a scap, still going to launch his platform? What name yeah, no, they might because the controversy that might be good publicity. And he killed his social media platform but now he's lost probably 1.2 million followers. So you got to be intelligent and way.
Speaker 2:It's kind of the same conversation we had at 1.2 million followers is that's money? That's downloads, that's dollars.
Speaker 1:That's likes that's a lot of money. Probably these foregoes at that point. But it like it kind of comes back to the what we've discussed in last episode, like hey, you know, you could buy a town if you won that 1.5 billion dollar. You know mega million or whatever. You better do it the right way.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because if you go and say, well, it's like a hundred million dollars, your kid, kid kidnapped tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You probably lost a break line. You've got family members that you've not talked to since the Korean War coming out saying that, man, I missed you so much.
Speaker 2:Well, I wonder. So post one bought that magic card. Yeah, I wonder that dude was like on, I like I wonder if that I mean that guy's just walking around with two million dollars, mm, hmm, like 2.7. Mm, hmm.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, I come to that type of money. I'm going like incognito.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you never see me again.
Speaker 1:I'm just scared. I'm not a spaceship by spaceship my $800 million dollars. I make movies. I'm going to go like full on pat my homes and buy a shitty MLB team or something.
Speaker 2:That'd be cool. Is that dream job for you? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Is it GM one?
Speaker 1:Minority owner, or something I want to know what the verbiage is for that.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, this is on part of. It would be great.
Speaker 1:I'd be perfectly fine with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, like I said, selling out is like that's what it would be and I guess that's the whole thing right. It's like because a lot of it's about AI and if you're going to get, if you're not going to have the work, because something else can do it for you. Look, man, paul Walker has been dead a few years and has been in multiple movies.
Speaker 1:That's a perfect example.
Speaker 2:So that's a big thing. That they're talking about is like a likeness.
Speaker 1:This is not just him, carrie Fisher.
Speaker 2:Right, carrie Fisher. And then I think about they did it in the nineties in the Street Fighter movie. I don't know if it was nineties, maybe I was like I think it was nineties.
Speaker 1:It was nineties, late nineties.
Speaker 2:With the guy from the Adams family that played In Boston In Boston, and he died like of liver cancer or whatever in the middle of the screening and they finished it with AI, or not with AI, but with CGI like it was his likeness.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's the same equivalent.
Speaker 2:We weren't calling it AI at the time. It's AI.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean whatever.
Speaker 2:And they finished it with his likeness and they signed like they said. Paul Walker is going to be in the next. Like he's going to do it again. Like they're not him, I guess, but he's going to do it again Like I've not watched one since first five. Well, I've only watched the clips, like, of the new one with Paul Walker in it, and I know they're talking about doing that Like at some point. We're just going to have actors in movies and they're not actually in them.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like I don't know. I mean, I guess, voices, I don't know.
Speaker 1:But right now, you got to think Hollywood's painting this as well. It's a ode to their memory.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Oh, it's not, no, it's, they're saving money. Yeah, you want to put a?
Speaker 1:that's why we're Robin Williams in a movie. That's why we're having this strike. Yeah, that's why we're having it.
Speaker 2:And I feel like this is one time where I don't think the actors have like an upper hand. You know what I mean, because I think, like a lot of time they do a lot of time, they're the power play, but the studio is like, hey, we're just going to use AI, like, whether you show up or not, we're going to use AI, we're just going to write shit with AI and like I'm curious to see how like Deadpool turns out, because Deadpool did Deadpool stall the film I think everything's stalled right now I don't remember, I don't think they got to the house of dragons.
Speaker 2:Oh, house of dragons still filming it, so that that shit's not going to get done. Yeah, deadpool's not gonna get done. I know, deadpool, they were gonna try to do it but they couldn't improvise it. All right, there's no improv at all and they're like Ron Reynolds is just not. It's not gonna be good if he doesn't get to improv.
Speaker 1:No, he's gotta have it. I wonder if they tried it.
Speaker 2:They feel like one day or something with it and I wonder if he was like, tried to improv so much. So they were like oh, I understand what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of things that I can and should do. Like I think the synopsis part for us is fantastic. Could do my job. We wanna use it because we don't want to do that part. Yeah, right, so I'm 100% fine with that. But, like, when you have people with the union who's been writing and painting movies for years, like one of my favorite writers of all times, kevin Williams, and huge, huge cream fan, you ain't gonna find a lot of people in this world that loves the franchise more than me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you do love cream, love it.
Speaker 1:Man went on. I mean, fuck you done Dawson's Creek, which you know, it is what it is. I'm not a Dawson's.
Speaker 2:Creek fan. Yo, I love Dawson's Creek. I got no shame.
Speaker 1:He done the faculty.
Speaker 2:Faculty rocks.
Speaker 1:I know what you did last summer.
Speaker 2:It's like dark Dawson's Creek it is. They all are really.
Speaker 1:Like, if you wanna put it in that perspective, but like I love his writing and his take, like his camp and what he done in the screaming we used to be able to bring that like the whole entire genre flipped back on its head and looking at itself and poking fun. Ai's not gonna do that. That's nuanced. That's not gonna happen with AI. So I mean I could be wrong. Ai just may be able to do that, I don't know. But that's scary, it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1:It's incredibly impressive. That's why I kind of wish we had Andrew today, just kind of be able to speak to those pieces.
Speaker 2:We'll get him to talk to you on it next week.
Speaker 1:And we'll have to bring it back up Cause. I'd like to see you know his viewpoint on all of that. But I guess the ultimate thing to take away from today's shows don't be a scap, don't be a bitch, unless it's.
Speaker 2:Don't be a scap. Unless it's a ton of money, unless it's gonna change your life. Always take the money, always take the money, always chase the bag.
Speaker 1:That's like in closing. That's the part that bothers me is.
Speaker 2:Before we go yeah, my girl's not seen shameless.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, yeah, we gotta get back. So why have you not watched this show? I just never watched it. Is it like Avatar with this piece of shit over here, like it's just, it was too popular.
Speaker 2:I don't wanna watch it. I just never really watched it. Super fan of ours, Willie, yeah, Retch out to me and was like yo, I've never seen Avatar either. He was like I don't get the hype.
Speaker 1:Well, you don't get the hype if you've not seen it.
Speaker 2:He's fucking, like I said at this point, that's just. That's just. I can't watch it.
Speaker 1:You would love Shameless.
Speaker 2:I feel like I would. It's pretty solid. You have homework, it's not?
Speaker 1:Watch the palette. Watch the palette of Shameless. Have you watched the Bear?
Speaker 2:Yes, it's what's the actor's name? I don't know his name because I'm not a female. It's Lit from Shameless.
Speaker 1:He's phenomenal. He's phenomenal and Shameless. You will love it.
Speaker 2:He has pretty eyes.
Speaker 1:Watch it. He's a dream, bow. Yeah, he's yeah, true, he's a dream bow, pick it up for him. And in this he's freaking Chicago trash.
Speaker 2:I like it. It doesn't get any hotter than that. I'm just saying it's pretty hot, mm. Something about the Chicago I don't know.
Speaker 1:That's why I like it, although they're all freaking socks fans and it's like South side of Chicago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the other side of where my heart is.
Speaker 1:but you know it is what it is, that's fine, but kind of like we were going back to right in closing. You got to weigh what it's worth, right? Because going into this, if you decide, hey, I'm going to cross this pick and line I'm going to make my millions. You better make sure there wasn't millions, millions more on that other side.
Speaker 2:It's weird too, because, like they're not going to know you crossed the pick and line for years. You don't know what I mean, like stuff's going to come out.
Speaker 1:Oh dude, it's going to be out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean there's probably more undercover narks going on in those types of situations.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, so it's just TMZ everywhere.
Speaker 2:I wonder, is it like a like Camberman and Lighting man too? It's everything, yeah, it's everything Like you name it Lighting man.
Speaker 1:People cut job, edit everything.
Speaker 2:It hits your mind. It's like a wild. Yeah, maybe I'll just be looking for a job now, before we've established it, I'll cross the pick and line for money I apologize, not for just like normal money, though. Not a terrible person Fucking. This is a good show. Everybody, awesome, yeah.
Speaker 1:Listen, you're still in strike. Listen. Social media platforms TikTok. We don't do the Facebook fuck. Meta TikTok Instagram. Make sure you guys follow us there and make us TikTok famous. That way it kind of puts us in a situation where we have to decide between money and our fandom. We want to make the toxic situation in our favor, so definitely go there, do that. Patreon. Check that out. We're going to try to be adding new content there as quickly as possible, but yes, You're way better at that than I am, am I.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like that was much better than mine. Did you get out of that I?
Speaker 1:did. It's actually yeah.
Speaker 2:You do this part, then no, this is you. I can't take this one. Y'all got anything else, that's it All right y'all Remember that nobody stopped me from quitting your job, but you, just because of Nikkie NikSIK. Member Paul meters 100 miles.